Taran Noah Smith.

What young MTV reality star HASN'T had to be cleaned up considerably before he was ready for his closeup, and hasn't been spotted in bars since he was 16?

That's a much trickier blind…if you ask me.

don't know, don't care.
MTV SUCKS now….has for years.

amen parissucks…i'm going to get on my soapbox again and point out that y'all should be ashamed of the fact you consider these losers from mtv reality shows to be celebrities. i like my frivolous celeb news as much as the next queen but this is just too much. these people are over-privileged beverly hills brats who should immediately be executed not talked about.

james we didn't make them celebrities, they were born that way.

sar, how does bruce jenner's son qualify as a celebrity? his dad barely qualifies as a celebrity.

I rate people as celebrities based on whether my 71 year old mother knows who they are. If Mom knows who you are and has a hilarious opinion about you, you are in fact, a celebrity.

You should have heard the convo I had with her after the VMAs. That was a hoot!

Well, James - I'm glad you asked. (Friendly voiceover tone) You see, fame is a shallow and meaningless aspiration. Hence it takes exceptionally shallow and meaningless people to fill vacancies in the world of celebrity. The less valuable you are upon birth, the mor you know that destiny has doomed you to a life of fame.

And now you know.

shit. i have given up my ambitions of being famous…sar just knocked me out of the running. thanks alot, bitch.

well sar…now i do know. wish i didn't.

evil, i use the same methodology. if my mom or aunt (who are in their late 50's) know you, you're famous. my mom knows britney and her hilarious problems therefore she's famous. my mom however, says brody who(?) therefore he's a nothing.

your mom sounds like a hoot and a half too by the way.

Am I going to Hell if I don't know who Bruce Jenner is?

He was a famous athlete in the 70s who did triatholons and got endorsements and stuff. He married a couple of famous Hollywood chicks and is now with Kim KardASSian's mom.

it's the rise of the third-tier semi-celebrities like kim kardASSian and brody jenner that makes me think that this is indeed the last days of the roman empire. well, that and the whole bush presidency but i'll leave that for dailkos.

Personally, I love it when Lionel (OUTRAGEOUS!) Richie is referred to as Nicole Richie's dad, same with Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell being referred to as Kate Hudson's parents. It's like the Circle of Life. Even the venerable Barrymore family is pretty much a footnote to most people who just know they are somehow related to Drew, if they even know that she comes from an acting family.

She certainly doesn't act like she comes from an acting family. Though I do love her so.

Probably ape face, Jason.

Bruce Jenner is famous for his face-only sex change operations.

Much like Kenny Rogers. Apparently he didin't, know when to fold em.