— Thu, Mar 15, 2007 —

Here's famous dancer Heather Mills getting a leg up (yuk, yuk, yuk) on the carnivores and breaking into an industrial pig farm to expose atrocities.

Her brave act begs many questions: Is animal liberation extremism grounds for dismissal from Dancing With the Stars? Is marrying and subsequently hustling Paul McCartney grounds for inclusion in Dancing With the Stars? Is animal liberation extremism worth a damn? What's with the fashion poses amid the painted pigs?


No. 1
evil twin says:

MMMmmmm. Bacon.

March 15, 2007 1:51 PM
No. 2
Kitchy says:

I have a sudden craving for ham.

March 15, 2007 1:56 PM
No. 3
Zack says:

I wouldn't call this extremism.

March 15, 2007 3:15 PM
No. 4
ronnie says:

HM is so fucking ignorant. She actually stumbles over her words trying to make the "horrific conditions" sound worse than what IS ACTUALLY OBSERVED.

"It stinks in here"? Guess what, ho, they're FUCKING PIGS!

Go break into some human prisons holding people "guilty" of victimless crimes; that will earn some respect from me. Not that you care about that. I've only got two legs.

March 15, 2007 3:27 PM
No. 5
Tulip says:

Can she get voted off before she even gets to the USA for the competition?

March 15, 2007 4:09 PM
No. 6
ron says:

So which one is the pig?

March 15, 2007 5:53 PM
No. 7
Robin says:

I don't know how anyone can think the conditions were as bad as she is making them out to be. How the hell do people like her think that farmers can make money having Pigs live in the kind "conditions" she deems fair? Do pigs that are going to get butchers for ham need five star Accommodations?

March 15, 2007 6:21 PM
No. 8
juicyjimmie says:

Sorry, Robin, but that's pretty ignorant. Farmers aren't forced to do that to a momma pig in order to make money. There are other ways of letting the pig feed its babies without forcing it to stand.

March 15, 2007 6:26 PM
No. 9
Suzanne says:

Wow, c'mon people. Must you all be so ignorant? You're all tripping over yourselves to put out the insensitive comments possible just to shock without even stopping to THINK. God forbid you do that. What does HM's leg have to do with this? Duh. Sometimes I think I'm surrounded by idiots. If the conditions aren't as bad as she's making them out to be, YOU go live in them and then decide. Awww.....poor inmates. Three square meals and a bed and room to move around. I feel for them.

March 15, 2007 7:49 PM
No. 10
evil twin says:

Who was talking about HM's leg situation? I think if you are talking about Ronnie, he was talking about 4-legged creatures vs 2-legged creatures. I think you are being a tad sensitive. Also, I believe that human beings DO deserve better accomodations than animals, so I guess I don't get a PETA card.

March 15, 2007 8:07 PM
No. 11
brittany says:

this is horrible. all of you are ignorant who do not think it is. how is this necessary to put these animals through such horrible living situations. i will never understand the human mind. animals should be treated better than this. human only think for themselves, a lot of things need to change in this world and they cant because all of you are stuck with these horrible beliefs

March 15, 2007 11:06 PM
No. 12
alex says:

1. The industrial farming industry is cruel and inhumane - pigs and other farm animals were never kept this way until this generation. The EU is trying to ban this practice, Arizona just voted to ban it. People are beginning to realize that it is CRUEL and animals should live as animals, not as meat-making machines ... Learn something about it and don't be so ignorant.

2. She has at least stayed true to her beliefs and worked for animals when she was with Paul, and now that she's not. Whatever you think of her, give her credit for that.

March 15, 2007 11:20 PM
No. 13
evil twin says:

They are not raised as pets, they are "meat making machines." I don't advocate cruelty certainly, but we have to realize that these animals ARE bred for this. What do you guys propose-access to cable TV

March 16, 2007 8:27 AM
No. 14
ronnie says:

Give HM credit for staying true to her beliefs?
DAMN! We could have avoided WWII, and WWI, and VietNam, and Iraqs I & II, and...

Shut the fuck up, idiots. Cruelty should be avoided, but, I guarantee you, if you ask that pig, "hey, pig, yeah, you. Do you want to sleep in a pen all by yourself before you die?" He's not going to be all like, "Shit yeah! Bring on the death! I got the place all to myself tonight!"

March 16, 2007 1:26 PM
No. 15
Gwenyth says:

Though I think that she is a HUGE Gold digger.....being married to Paul for 4 years and expecting half of his life which he earned over more than 40 years of doing something meaningful...

BUT I applaud her for raising awareness, people who eat Big Mac's have no idea what happens to the cow their eating, there is nothing wrong with educating people about what mass farming (capitalism in general) does,

If a company has no laws or regulations to abide by???.they will do ANYTHING to make a buck???it happens to PEOPLE all over the world all the time, horrible work conditions, minuscule pay???..the same goes for animals and ???farming??????.

March 16, 2007 1:47 PM
No. 16
evil twin says:

Who cares what happened to the cow before it became a Big Mac? Its life's purpose was to be the Big Mac. Was the cow penning a Pulitzer prize winning novel before its untimely passing? As far as working conditions and miniscule pay...what dumb ass is paying their cows before they slaughter them? Now that's just silly.

March 16, 2007 2:15 PM
No. 17
Mae says:

This is for so called 'Ronnie'. I was wondering if he eats with that filthy disgusting mouth of his? He HAS very low self esteem to be so negative about others. Get a life asshole!

March 16, 2007 3:27 PM
No. 18
Liz says:

Number one, why is it always a humans vs. animals debate? All the animal rights people I know are anti death penalty, all about helping the homeless and the poor, and just pro human rights in general. Animal rights and human rights are not mutually exclusive. Yes, I am a vegetarian who loves animals, but I also love people as well, and I help out human charities whenever I can. Secondly, pigs are exceedingly intelligent creatures and they feel pain just as humans do. I worked with a lady whose husband worked at a slaughter house and the things he told me the workers would do to the animals when they got bored would turn your stomachs. We're talking chopping off body parts, boiling, and skinning the animals all while they are fulling conscious. Most of this was for shits and giggles. I know we can never stop the majority of people from eating meat, but do we have to torture the animals before they die? I have a friend who babysits for a member of the Tyson family, and their children's grandchildren are already set for life, so why not spend a little money and make the millions of animals they kill a year not entirely miserable their whole lives. Thirdly, since you brought up humans vs. animals and the "these animals were born to be meat" thing, what if I decided that I wanted to have a child just so I could beat it and relieve my frustrations? Or for it to do nothing but clean the house all day? Would that be okay because that's why the child was made? Even think of a cat or dog instead in that situation. If I treated my dog the way these pigs were treated it would be a felony. Why is it okay because it's another species?

March 16, 2007 3:31 PM
No. 19
ronnie says:

So-called is right; ronnie is not my given name. But I am a girl. A pretty, smart, likable girl. Not so modest, though.

That said, assuming I understand what "so negative about others" means, I am not that. I do call bullshit when I smell it and see it. Heather Mills is knee-deep in it, as were several people commenting on this post.

To say someone deserves credit simply for believing in whatever they believe is damn nigh the silliest thing to come out of an adult's mouth.

But I've assumed too much.

March 16, 2007 4:21 PM
No. 20
ronnie says:


I did make bring humans into the debate. But I wouldn't say I made it humans v. animals, because, you know, humans are part of that whole animal classification taxonomajig-thingy.

My point is that HM does all kinds of illegal and/or annoying shit in the name of saving damn near every animal except the tsetse fly and humans.

Your "analogy" of raising a kid to beat it is beneath a serious response.

Appreciate your heart, passion (as I do HM's actually), but reason, relaxation, and paragraph breaks can only help.

March 16, 2007 4:29 PM
No. 21
DonHo says:

Hey! That's not really fair... She's only got one leg, she's bound to take a tumble once and a while and expose her nasty ol' pig farm.

March 16, 2007 4:48 PM
No. 22
Liz says:

Ronnie, she also does major work with land mines. That was her main cause before she met Paul, and I think that is a mainly human rights issue. You should research before you judge so harshly. Just because she duped one old man doesn't mean she's anti-human. And as for my "analogy", my mother is a social worker, and she actually has come across cases like that. One lady kept her daughter chained to the toilet and only let her out to clean the house; we had a big case here a while back where a man admitted that he only beat his child because he was angry at his boss, but didn't want to do anything to the man because he didn't want to get fired. Many, many child abuse cases stem from the parent's frustration, oppostional defiant disorder in the parents, and the like. Sorry I dumbed this down by saying "having a child to beat it". I feel if you are abusive and know you aregoing to be abusive, this is what you are doing. Again, just because you haven't experienced something does not mean it's not happening in the world. On your other points, I do yoga almost daily for relaxation. Don't confuse passion for an issue with a lack of relaxation! I feel my post was very reasonable. Please point out any unreasonble arguments that I make. Also, sorry about the lack of paragraph breaks. I thought it wouldn't be a big deal as I am out of college and I will not be graded on this. I guess being the grammatical and science police makes you feel smarter; hey, whatever floats your boat.

March 16, 2007 11:21 PM
No. 23
Jessie says:

From the "humans deserve better treatment than animals" folks, I would like to know what is the criteria that entitles humans and not animals to a cruelty-free existence? Is it intelligence? If so, how do you explain children or the mentally challenged? You can't use the argument that they are still humans if you take intellectual ability out the equation. You can't have it both ways.

March 16, 2007 11:46 PM

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