He cannot say the N word anymore. Kwame had it buried last year!

What the eff, I thought the writer’s strike was over.

There you go again Mae. Have you been hitting the bottle today? You’re killing me.

This is the sort of thing that makes me mad. Dog says it and everyone is outraged, yet if Nas has it all over his album, people (including Cord) love it. I think that the word is offensive no matter how you “intend” it to be.

he is revolting…not as revolting as the mass numbers of other crass, gross unedumacated revolting people who tune in to his show…and not NEARLY as revolting as A&E…reaching out to the African American community! Holy f***. barf.

maybe so blah but that has nothing to do with A&E pretending that Dog’s pretend reaching out/ new black community acceptance is the reason he is staying on the air. The press release should be honest and say ‘ he is a gross white trash racist pig but alot of our viewers are too and that brings in alota dolla dolla bills y’all”

We all know that no corportation would own up to something like that. What it comes down to is ratings and only ratings. Being morally reprehensible is one thing - losing ratings is quite another. I don’t really know what should happen to him. I know that there are a lot of people who I find atrocious and offending but are still allowed on television.

that randall kennedy book is really good. very well researched and written. how ironic that it is juxtaposed against a story about an inarticulate white man.

Surprisingly no, cooter. I’ve been sober since… Yesterday morning!

right, ratings and record sales. same dif.

I think being offended by a word is ridiculous.
There are far more offensive things happening in the world. I think because these words are hardly spoke that when they are said people cringe. Follow me with this, I’m going somewhere. People say “bitch” “faggot” and “cunt” (okay that last one is just me) on a regular basis and there isn’t nearly as much outrage as when “nigger” is spoken. Much like “nigga” is often used loosely, my friends call each other “bitch,” “hooker,” “slut” loosely, as a term of endearment. It doesn’t make it okay, but its accepted.
Now I know some people will say “its not the same” well, how is it different? What’s the difference between “nigger” and “faggot” or “bitch” ??

I’m a big fan of A&E. They bring me deplorable addicted train wrecks on Intervention amuse me on a weekly basis.

I’m more offended by Dog and his son’s butchering of the English language by saying “Brah.”

Have I crossed the line yet?

*to amuse me*

Blah, I know! A word should not only be allowed to be spoken by people certain of a certain skin color. It encourages segregation. But, obviously, I am not offended when a black person uses the word to refer to other black people. I still think it is ignorant and backwards, but they are not trying to be hateful. When Nas says he wants to take the meaning out of the word “nigger”… does he mean I can use it to refer to black people to? No, that would make me morally reprehensible because I’m not black.
PS
I don’t mind that he christened his album “Nigger,” it’s the use of the word in his lyrics that is crass.

It all depends on WHO and How its used that makes the word offensive. I call my best friend a bitch constantly…even when I answer the phone (caller id) but if I called someone that I dont like a bitch….different story.

I hope that makes sense.

mae…I am busy compulsively eating to stuff down my emotions tonight for much typing but I agree with what you are saying…especially about Intervention. I loves me a crackhead too! I am being somewhat provacative about this A&E bizniz but I mostly just hate mullets and bad grammer and gross people. is that so wrong?

I hear you. I especially hate it when the caller ID goes on the fritz and I answer the phone with “Sup slut?” or “What Bitch?” and its not who I think it is.
Technology hates my life.

s-p, its never wrong to hate safety haircuts, bad grammar and gross people.

ilnazhad, my daughter is half black with blonde hair (kinky and nappy as all hell, but blonde) blue eyes and light skin, does that mean she’s allowed to use it? See, its not always as easy as it seems.

Mae, there is a significant difference between calling someone a “cunt” and a “nigger.” Using the word “cunt” is not sexist. People refer to men they disapprove of as “dicks.” Sexual organs are just funny out of a sexual context. It’s the same as calling someone an “asshole.”
Calling a woman a “bitch” is also not sexist if they are immoral or unpleasant. Using “bitch” as a synonym for the word “woman” is sexist because it is disresfectful to the entire gender, regardless of the content of their character.
Calling someone a “slut” or a “hooker” is, again, not sexist. People who use these words are implying they are morally opposed to promiscuity, not that they believe women in general are inferiors.
Using the word “faggot” is just as bad as using the word “nigger.” Unfortunately, people are less aware of the ludicrousness of homophobia than they are of the irrationality of racism.
“Nigger” expresses racial hatred and bigotry. Many of the other curse words you mentioned simply express disdain for certain type of behavior. Martin Luther King didn’t tell us not to judge, he told us to judge based on the content of someone’s character.

So you wouldn’t mind if I started referring to you as “cunt” then?

Since its funny.

2qaztv

Oh shit! I just spilled Jack & coke on my f-ing lap top.

Oops.

You know what I find offensive? That a group of people are lumped into one catagory just because of the colour of their skin. IE: “African American community” Not all blacks come from Africa. Cuban, South American, Dominican, Jamacain, etc. And an article I just read the other day…

“The original ancestors of all humans probably lived in Africa, but from the end of the Ice Ages 12,000 years ago up until the Age of Discovery beginning in the 15th century, Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans were relatively isolated from each other. During these millennia, some separate genetic markers emerged on each continent. So, geneticists don’t have much trouble distinguishing African and European ancestors.

How common is it? According to Shriver, of the several thousand people he studied who identify as African-Americans, about 90 percent are at least half black genealogically (and thus genetically). On average, about 82-83 percent of the genes found in African-Americans are indeed from Africa. Still, the odds that a Y-chromosome test will find a forefather from Europe are significant. Kittles noted that about 30 percent of African-Americans’ Y-chromosomes originated in Europe. “

thanks mae, ya wee cunt. your spirit makes my heart sing. and my fags are okay with fag- again, it is all in the source. we can spend all night arguing the semantics of this but racism is way deeper than someone speaking a word. the danger is in mass acceptence or worse-indifference- to such acts/action. we only really vote with our money and our feet so…vote!

Spilling a Jack & Coke is unacceptable!

You’re welcome, s-p, ya silly little bitch!
If I called one of the drag queens a “faggot” at GiGi’s last weekend I would have been pummeled.

you go mae! you are on fire.

well thats a drag queen, totally different. sheesh, mae-thats like grouping all black people under the “African” umbrella.

Oh, these drag queens were making out with each other h-a-r-d-c-o-r-e

Firstly, I pointed out that the reason we chose sexual organs as words to use to refer to contemptible people is because they are comical and disgusting out of a sexual context (where they are more than welcome). The word “cunt” was not chosen because it is something exclusive to women and that something that represents women represents inferiority. It was chosen because sex is yucky and humorus when we are not aroused or speaking of anatomy. It’s balanced. We call jerks “dickheads.” And, no, using the word “cunt” is not really that funny because it is trite.
Also, I said that people should use disparaging terms on people who are deserving of them. (I don’t believe I did anything to offend you.) But there is nothing wrong with calling deserving people names with a negative connatation. To use an extreme example, you don’t need to be like “Hitler wasn’t quite morally upright.”
And, when taking part in an argument, you should stay away from making it personal. It even seems like you see this as some kind of rivalry. That’s not just rude, but it’s also a sign that your points are weak.

No, I’m not arguing and I wasn’t making it personal. I was making a point. And “cunt” is not exclusive. I believe the term is used frequently in Scotland by me. Or so my Scottish ex told me.

me -> men.

You obviously took it as a personal attack on yourself by saying that this discussion is personal and a rivalry.

I’ve already moved onto attacking drag queens. *Duh!* (sarcasm)

umm…some opinions of mine: I am pretty sure that words like cunt were chosen precisely to represent womens inferiority when originally used…partly why taking back ownership of this word is gratifying AND completely fun and funny,ask any Brit. Sex is not yucky whether I am aroused or not…I am starting to think that ilnaz is really Madonna…random.

mae, can we attack drags and mock our mos some more? madonna is a bit sensitive of her whiteness due to recent african adoption and self concious that the entire planet saw her cunt throughout the eighties now that she is kabballafied. its not personal.

No, I meant that cunt is exclusive to women in the sense that only women have vaginas. I didn’t mean the word is only allowed to by women. I was trying to explain to you that it was not chosen because it represents women, it was chosen because it is a sexual organ. Just like “dick” was chosen because it is a sexual organ.
Trust me, I was not hurt by your remark at all. But there is no denying that “So you wouldn’t mind if I started referring to you as “cunt” then?” is making things personal. You are trying to evoke a response by asking me (”you”) how I would feel if attacked, which means you are unable to think of an argument where rational and emotion coexist. And, as it turns out, when someone calls me a cunt for no reason, I tend to think they are immature.

cunt (noun)
Derogatory term for a woman. Considered by many to be the most offensive word in the English language.

nigger
nigga, niggah etc. al.(noun)1.describes an ignorant, uneducated, foolish individual regardless of race, color, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
2. endearing term between two or more individual to describe a friendship or bond.

but you are wrong about cunt-it has traditionally been used as an insult to women. Dick is not the same.

ilh, actually i was being facetious when I asked you if you wouldn’t mind that.

might be time for some cock-talk…if that doesnt lighten the mood, we should all move on to poor Rumer Willis’ big potato head.

Mae, you are right about how it is just as bad as the word “nigger” when it is used as a derogatory term for women in general.
2. Disparaging and Offensive.
a. a woman.
b. a contemptible person.
So, definition b is not sexist, definition a is sexist. I thought I made that clear when talking about the word “bitch” and I didn’t want to be redundant. My bad.

No worries. I apologise for not clarifying I was being facetious when I said #20.

Wait, Lisa(#1), why aren’t you up in arms over Cord’s post?
“Dog the Bounty Hunter, the mulleted, ex-con-cum-manhunter naïve people were shocked to discover was a little racist, is getting back his reality show.” I thought that this kind of observation infuriated you? Or is it only when I write it?

Mae, no need for an apology. I took no offense. And it was nice talking with you!

Likewise!

Um, Choni, I will read that in a joking tone (instead of a supercilious taunting one) since I am sure you are not trying to say that:
1) It is my job to stay on here all day waiting to jump on people.
2) Saying a particular person may be racist (maybe after having seen them on tv - or knowing their past) and saying that all bounty hunters are racist.
3) I disagree with people based on who they are and not what they say.
4) That because I disagreed with you I never get a day off and I have to be vigilant and aggressive in looking for similar (although not the same) statements to disagree with.

Fuck people, you complain and I try to keep it light and jokey - and I still get shit. So how about a collective “suck my dick and don’t tell me what to do”?

Choni just got served!

Just proves once more that money talks and the once-classy A&E execs are now just morons.

Should we start asking for passports in here or what? It feels all touristy in here.