oh you silly silly girls.

Of course drunken consent is still consent - at least according the law, which is I assume why these girls have dropped their suit - but isn't it also exploitative. The video of him asking these girls if they wanted to be on GGW was disgusting a bunch a guys with cameras, haraguing these girls, falsely flattering them into doing what they wanted. And these drunk girls all giggly and hazy and compliant. Yeuch!

I mean why does the Girls Gone Wild team not ask these girls in the daytime when they're sober, if they fancy getting drunk in the evening and taking their tops of and engaging in some girl-on-girl action? I mean why wait until their inhibitions are lowered by alcohol and ask.

Joe Francis is an asshat and I hope he gets some sort of comeuppance.

I'm in a mood. I need a Fanta.

orange fanta?

Always Orange Fanta. That lemon stuff does nothing for me. Nusssing, I tell you. Nussssing! *exits stage right*

seyour, I totally agree. It's disgusting that he takes advantage of young girls while they're wasted to get them to do things that will stay with them forever.

Has anyone read this article?
http://www.latimes.com/feature.....4370.story
It's kind of long, but really really interesting, if you're looking to kill some time and find another reason to hate Joe Francis.

Here (Canada) consent isn't valid if it's given while the person is impaired by drugs or alcohol. So, Joe, "Girls Gone Wild Canada". I'm telling you, it's gold. Just like our prison toilets.

My guess is that they weren't drunk *enough*, because alcohol can negate consent - depending on the degree of booziness and the state (think about marriage annulments and rape).

I take issues with the word floozie. I mean, not only is there not a male equivalent, but men would never get called out for that behavior! No one calle that NY fireman a floozie, or that dude who said he had an affair with Paula Abdul. TMZ can suck it.

Seyore: when I was in spain, you could get a drink called tinto de verano - in lemon or orange. It was basically cheap red wine mixed with Fanta (orange or lemon). I have tried it with other orange sodas - not the same. Anyhow delicious in the warmer months!

TMZ can and should suck it. And that red wine and Fanta drink sounds like something I might recreate at home at some point soon.

From what I remember of the video it can be argued that they weren't drunk enough. No-one was close to paralytic or anything but they were obviously in a state of lowered inhibition.

And Janice I've read that article too, it made me feel very unclear. I thought he was your run of the mill, misogynist douche. Turns out he is an aggressively, warped, misogynist prick. Makes me so angry that he has made millions from GGW.

I'm gonna have to go get another soft drink.

I’m sorry and you’ll all hate me for saying this but I’m saying it anyway. These girls know damn well what they’re doing. I’m not too far removed from the college scene and the sad truth is that girls need so much assurance that they’re desired that this is what its come to. Would they do it sober at 1 in the afternoon after a midterm? No. But Spring Break is a whole different ball game. The reason they go is to get drunk and hook up (please don’t try to argue this with me, I understand this is not the case for 100% of spring breakers but you’re kidding yourself if you think most college kids don’t go to places like Cancun for that very reason). Undoubtedly they are mortified when they realize their debauchery is now recorded in GGW history, but perhaps they should have thought about that before the 7th tequila shot.

And what ever happened to taking responsibility for one’s own actions? If you can’t trust yourself not to give consent and do soft core porn while you’re drunk on Spring Break, then control yourself. Don’t go. Or don’t get shit faced every night. And if you do, then know that what you do is your own doing. Is it sad that this is the world that we live in? Where girls have to worry about things like this? Yes, absolutely, but it is what it is and girls need to realize that and control themselves to avoid finding themselves in this situation.

Savvy, I don't think it's fair that girls should be expected to "control their liquor" to avoid this situation, because the reason this happens is that there are TEAMS out scouting for girls to take advantage of. This is a professional enterprise that has learned ways to coax and cajole girls into doing this type of thing. Just because girls need to realize that there are people out there trying to exploit them, doesn't mean that the people doing the exploiting aren't WRONG. So so wrong. And if you read the article linked up about Francis, whether or not what he does is legal is very questionable, in many cases.

I don't think girls should be considered to have deserved what they got from Francis because they drank too much. By that standard, myself, all my friends, and probably my parents deserve to be exploited by GGW because we failed to stop our drinking at a responsible level that one time (or ten).

On the plus side, I have an Orange Fanta in the fridge. I've never tried it, and I'm very excited.

he's still a loser

I totally agree Savvy, "alcohol makes me a different person" give me a break. It's not like Girls Gone Wild is something new. It's just like sex tapes. You think were filming just for us to view? You better really trust & know the other (or others) in the video.

J- I absolutely agree with you that Francis is very wrong in what he does. And I think its very unfortunate that girls need to worry about things like this. I guess I wish I could just plea with girls to be more careful. I was in a sorority in college and have seen my fair share, and its just so sad to see the things they do for approval from men.

I'm very guilty myself of drinking too much, and I could very easily have wound up on one of these videos. Honestly, were I in their shoes I would probably feel the same way they do. But from where I am now, it's hard watching young girls make mistakes that are avoidable.

Bottom line- I agree- totally think Francis is a scumbag, but I also think girls need to be careful and have more respect for themselves.

Savvy, I totally agree with everything you just said. Let's hug it out.

jesus. you guys should read that link above by janice. the guy is one sick fuck…

:) I'm glad we had this talk, Janice.

Fanta is okay, but I'm more of a Fresca girl.

Vodka Frescas are delicious! A little too delicious, methinks.

I want to join in on that girl on girl hug. He is suck a wetsack of something fecaly smelling. The fact that he was butt burgled still makes me feel no sympathy for him. I hope he's loved his time in jail.

I'm all about the diet vanilla black cherry pepse. dvbcv for short.

I read that article and I wonder if the woman pressed charges. I bet that is why his dumb ass thinks he can get away with everything - because he does. Man, I hate rich people. That is until I win the lottery.

Juju, c'mere! (huuuuuuuuuug). Now, can I have a sip of that delicious-sounding pixie drink?

Pressing charges against Joe Francis seems so futile. I feel like if he ever gets thrown in jail, it will be for something like tax evasion, totally unrelated to the skeezy GGW shit.

Isn't he in jail for tax fraud or something at the mo? And I didn't mean to absolve the girls of responsibility but that doesn't negate the evil of waiting for someone to be under the influence before asking them to sign a consent form. There is a reason it is illegal to do a number of things while drunk. You may not be an entirely different person but judgment is impaired and actions can be extreme.

I was talking about the reporter - he assaulted her. In front of a cop. Who asked if she wanted to press charges. I just wonder if she did.

Seyour, you're right! I hope these charges stick, so he gets put away for a long, long time. And his assets get seized, so he can't make these movies again when he comes out.

too bad he's scummy-cute…keeps from from hating him as much as i hate hitler. but i hate him as much as i hate george w. though.

Aw, j_b, you think he's cute for real?

This might ruin it for you, but I always imagine he smells like a mix of Axe and bodily fluids.

stop it janice…now you're really turning me on. he's the kind of guy you fuck, not sleep with, and never speak to again. and hope he didn't tape your fuck session to put on Xtube.com.

So, I don't need to bring my Michael Bolton CDs and scented bath crystals when I go seek him out in Cancun?

nah…just bring some vodka, cocaine, poppers, a cam corder and go along for the sick, slimy ride. then hate yourself for the next six months and turn lesbo.

He's cute, really? He's like that guy in high school who's cute from afar. But if you have to spend more than 5 minutes alone with him, you realize he's missing a few chromosomes and can't put together a sentence without using the phrase, fuckin a.

I am just bothered by his nose. It isn't small (I hate small noses on men), but it is small shaped. It is just, well, disconcerting.

Juje! I forgot to ask, how did the pouch turn out? We were debating what embellishments you would use.

I went with the potato head. I have many accesories, bangles, finery, and, crystals that I carry around and can change my look at a moments notice. I'm like, Charlie. Please someone rember that lovely scent.

Yes, the Charlie girl had the best hair. The dark haired one.

juju…i forgot to ask too. guess you came out of the whole thing ok?

No, this is actually my bitchy ghost. I'm snarking from beyond the grave. jujucot3er lives.

I know you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, but waht about a snark's uterus?

I made a lovely evening back and some moccasins

Evening bag just so we are clear. I'm also bringing evening back.

awww….glad you and your beautiful pussy pouch are ok. hope they gave you some nice medications. why are you here on mollygood when you should be watching "all my children" and "judge joe brown" while high on percocets and wine?

AMC is already over and my other fave show, Passions, was cancelled. I want to die. Why, why, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? More wine, please.

here…have some more wine. take another pill. judge judy should be on soon…if i could stay home and watch that mean bitch every day, i'd be a happy boy.

Passions was cancelled?! Not that I can watch it anymore, but damn that shit was awesome.

Passions is on DirecTV now.

Yep, Passions is on the 101 or something, maybe 104?

I don't even have direct tv. I'm so screwed.

Why don't some girls get together and turn the tables on this asshole? Get a group of them together - include some martial-arts babes and some Tura Satanas with lead pipes and GO WILD on his ass?

This guy deserves to get SCREWED. Somebody out there should totally set him up, break that stupid little nose of his and butt-rape him with a baseball bat.

Can I have a Fanta now?