I want to give her a break on this one.

What little I have read about Scientology, I believe Tom found his excuse in divorcing Nicole at that magic financial mark of before 10 years because Nicole was an SP (suggestive person). Scientologists are not supposed to have anything to do w/ SPs.

Cults put a lot of effort into cloistering their believers from outside influences. She has said that the kids are being raised as Scientologists and I am willing that the church doctrine that is being sholved into the kids is effectively discouraging them from having any interest in developing a relationship with Nicole.

Cord, Have you read ANYTHING that has been written lately about scientooligy? Are you secretly in love with Tom, because you could not be that judgemental and cynical of someone elses personal situation. Or could you. Sad.

I agree with Sammy. I also think it's really cruel to make a comment about "replacing" any child. Nicole's gone through a lot to get pregnant, including losing at least one baby.

How's she supposed to fight? Force the children to spend time with her and make them resent her even more? Flaunt what time she does get with them to the media like Tom does? Get all worked up fighting a losing battle and put her unborn child at risk?

It's not Cord's post.

Funny how on Oprah, Tom said that they share custody and that the stories about Nicole not seeing her kids are false. Gee…who to believe here?????

Oh ok. Nevermind me then. Carry on in giving it to him, christina.

It's a very sad thing that has happened here, but let's be honest- moms do it to their kids all the time. If they're being indoctrinated against Nicole, she's certainly handling it with grace and aplomb. I imagine someone less classy, like Denise Richards or Dina Lohan, would find a way to market and profit from the unfortunate situation.

Low blow, Cord.
Really, you simply must learn more about $cientology.

I'm sure it's true, I just can't believe she actually said it! Nicole, watch your back, baby.

I'm glad she finally said it…..everybody was already thinking it…and she said it in a classy way. She could have said "that fucking loser ex-husband of mine brainwashed my kids and now that hate me".

Another one bites the dust. We're losing more and more innocent(or weak, either one works) minds to scientology.

Nice one, cooter!

That's probably as much as she can say (or do) since the $cientologists probably have all kinds of dirt on her that they are holding over her head. Surprising she said that much as she usually doesn't say anything at all about Tom.

I say it's not like Katie give a big rat's butt um.. what those older adopted kids do. They are soon out of her house and onto their own lives. Nicole doesn't have to say anything negative about Tom.. he splashes his complete idiot shtick out in bold and rave-mad colors all by himself.

FYI, an SP is a Suppressive Person, not a "Suggestive" Person.

They're not even in Katie's house now, they live with Tom's sister most of the time so they can get the full Scientology treatment.

She knows she's lost them so why keep up the act? Katie already told the world they call her "mom." If this were a normal family, I'd tell her to go get her babies but sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on. At least she has her liberty and a heterosexual husband who isn't Wannapolean.

This is something that just blows my mind about Kidman who otherwise seems a self-sufficient, gregarious and intelligent woman. How did she lose contact or control of them in the first place!?? As a mother with loads of money I just don't see an excuse for letting her children slip away. There was another interview she did where she said her children, "Call her Nichole not Mom." And yet, Conner actually lives…with an aunt?! Are these kids just accessories?

How very cruel, I have read for years how heartbroken she is over her children. Cruise is a crazy man, she had no choice but to leave them. If Katie Holmes ever left Tommygirl she would have to leave her baby, so she will stay. By the way her kid looks just like Tom's cousin.UGLY!
I have never cared for Nicole one way or the other, but her children were stolen by a cult.

I think Nicole probably tried to put up a good fight for years but ultimately lost. Is the frizzy haired girl from Days of Thunder really got what it takes to go up against Tom Cruise and a HUGE corporation like scientology?

I think if the roles were reverseved and Tom was the one on the outskirts of the relationship with his kids it wouldn't seem as big of a shock.

I just think that they (the kids) were so young and brainwashed at such a young age that the kids naturally pulled away from her because she didn't fit into what they deemed acceptable.

Danni, who knows what she signed when they got married and also when they adopted the kids? Also, she believes her kids should have a say in where they live and they choose to live with Tom and be home-schooled by Tom's sister.

Susie, I agree. Katie (or "Kate") isn't nearly as intelligent though her father is a lawyer. If she wants Suri, she is stuck with him until he doesn't want her anymore and at the end of the day, Suri'll be his daughter, not theirs.

BDLine et al.: As part of "auditing" (counselling/confession) at the Cult of $ci, Kidman was asked to reveal things she wouldn't want to be made public. Those auditing sessions were preserved on tape (that's what ex-$ci member Jason Beghe says), so the cult can hold it over her head forever.
Cord should really do more research on the cult. Did I mention that already?

I don't have a lot of pity for Nicoke Kidman. She entered into that contract with Tom when she married him, she knew what she was getting into, and she did it anyway. Who knows how famous she would be now if she had never married him? Just like Katie Holmes. If she were not married to that psycho, she would just be a vague memory as some girl who was on a teen TV show several years ago. I have no pity for anyone who voluntarily associates with that man.

I don't know if she really did know the depth of his madness. I mean c'mon, did anyone expect Tom to go from one of the worlds sexiest men, to a social pariah? I'm guessing that the contracts did not explicity say, "So when I go batshit crazy and get that crazed look in my eye, you must leave the kids if you want to bail".

Luz, in Nicole's defense, I don't think she could have possibly been aware of the extent of the megalomania. He likes em young and naive. Nicole got too old, too smart and too independent to be the model beard. It should be noted that Nicole was a pretty good, somewhat successful actress before they married. I just say Flirting and she co-starred in that with Thandie Newton. Other than the awful Eyes Wide Shut, I can't think of a single good movie she did during the first 7 or so years of her marriage. The same kinda goes for the less-talented Katie. Katie's major successes are "Dawson's Creek" and Thank You For Smoking. She did both before meeting Tom. So his fame brought Nicole in the spotlight while she mostly stayed at home raising the kids that now call her by her first name, not doing any worthwhile projects. I'm sure he had a hand in that too. Really, look at the fantastic roles he's gotten Kate. He wouldn't even hire her for Mission Impossible lest she think she can survive without him. She gave up her autonomy for what? To do crappy projects that she probably would have gotten as Katie Holmes, chick from Dawson's Creek.

Katie Holmes on the other hand knew exactly what she was getting into.

Um, Heat magazine is on par with News of the World people

No, Katie Holmes is much more famous now. Not for acting, of course, for being a puppet. And although I'm sure he's gotten worse over the years, I think he was never really a balanced person. I just never liked Nicole Kidman anyways, she always seemed empty and completely void of any personality or human-like characteristics.

Luz, I felt that way until he dumped her and she was forced to put on her big girl panties and face up to the fact that she married a nut case.

It kinda makes you wonder: what the hell did she do that was so appalling that the audit tapes are being used to control her life? Seriously.

I've a lot of stuff written about Scientology and I don't a damn word of it. I've read a lot of stuff about a lot of things and I don't believe that crap either. This is the world of the Internet where the truth is of absolutely no consequence.

Hell, maybe I believe every word of everything I read.

Who knows?

Who cares? It's not like they could give her a kidney if she needed one. Screw them, Wannapoleon and BeardBot 3.0. No offense to adopted kids. You're not all dispensable but these two are. It's a lost cause, but hey, it's not like she gained weight, got stretch marks or had an episiotomy over these two. Nicole is and always will be my favorite Ice Queen and this crap I'm sure will help her in a future role. It builds character, boo.

I should be a therapist.

Nicole is my hero. I couldn't imagine the depths of anguish that comes with the children siding with the other parent.

But she is doing the super-human task that all divorced parents are faced with: Don't talk bad about the other parent.

She has got some circumstances that would drive me out of my mind. I would not be able to remain so calm.

But, she is playing this well. Some day, these two children will grow up to question their life, as all humans do. They will want to forge their own path.

They will know that she is a safe place to go to.
She is establishing that right now, in love.

He who laughs last, laughs best.

and for the low blow: she can do way better in every way. hell, if you want teens who will appreciate you, go adopt some foster kids. forget these two brats Nicole!

I bet you read contracts carefully and have them reviewed by a team of Yale and Harvard Law graduates. Live and learn, honey. You live and learn.

I respectfully disagree with gorgeousblackwoman.

These two children will need a sane person to turn to some day. You know they will.

she just doesn't seem maternal to me, even with the bun in the oven.

Tom was always more active in the raising of his children than Nicole was. I still think it is outrageously disrespectful of them to call Kate "Mom" and to refer to Nicole by her first name. Kate was in elementary school while Nicole spent time with her kids, she always made time for them even when she was filming her movies. Hopefully someday they will realize that they have been acting foolish by shunning her. I am convinced Tom has turned them against Nic and that he has been working on it since they were small children.

If my stepkids would call me mom, I would slap them and tell them they only have one mom and it isn't me. Katie Holmes is stupid.

Frankly, I don't blame her for counting her loses.

Within 3 years of Cruise getting his hands on them because he only got physical custody in late 2005, he has turned them into scientology drones. At least, she was smart enough to take them away from LA after the divorce and keep them in NY until then. Now that they are scientologists, they have been taught and continue to be taught on how to be "spies" and report back what they see, hear or know about her to the Cruise camp of scientologists. There are actually questionnaires that they are made to fill or answer that asks them about other people in their lives and what they know about them, these are called "security checks".

If Kidman has any sense, she will let them stay in LA, the alternative is to go to court to fight for custody but what is the point, the kids are 14 and 16 years old and it will only end up disrupting their lives. Strangely enough, they didn't live with Cruise for almost the whole of last year.