he looks like a newsie

While i understand that there are sane and decent Christians out there that dont use religion to promote their own personal hatreds and prejudices i really fucking hate them WITH A PASSION.

The ones that use their religion to promote their hatreds and prejudices i mean.

April - yeah or a chimney sweep from Mary Poppins. :)

Self-immolation would be a less life wasting alternative to sitting through this stinker.

i read he wouldn't kiss his on-screen wife. They had him kissing his real life wife but it was projected as a shadow so everyone would believe he was kissing his movie wife. Didja get that?

Not all christians are the bad kind. There are plenty of people out there who have a deep faith that gives them comfort and they feel no need force their views on others.

That aside, you couldn't pay me to sit through this movie.

I would have guessed that was a picture of Joshua Jackson.

Figures the only work Kirk Cameron can get is from religious producers with no film experience.

I saw an interview with Smirk Cameron … he doesn't want to work with Hollywood, because of all the gay and sin and whatever.

Well I can understand that Alice. I mean, the rest of the world doesn't sin and there aren't any gays.

I think that's just his defense mechanism kicking in. The dorky kid saying he doesn't want to play with the other kids because they're lame or mean or whatever, as if he was given the option anyway.

Exactly … he's totally turning them down, it's sooo not the other way around :)

Thank God, our God that is, the only true God, for people like Kirk, who chose not to become someone he is not, just to make movies. Even if you don't believe, don't knock anyone's faith. There is a God, and He loves all of us. He hates the sin, but loves the sinner.

can't wait til one of his children comes out of the closet and writes a scathing memoir…

Kayla– I don't buy people who get to pick and choose for the profession they chose. He chooses to be an actor and he chose to accept this role AFTER reading a script. I understand not wanting to kiss someone who isn't your wife, but I think God would understand. Does he hate Jim Cavezial (?) for portraying Jesus? C'mon, God is omnipotent, and Kirk's wife knows he loves her. It's a game, no different than any other part of acting.

I find my job offensive to my general way of life, in that I don't think people were meant to stare at computers and sit in cubicles filing paperwork for years on end, but I still do it. If you don't like an aspect of your profession then leave it. I'd get fired if I chose to stop filing aforementioned paperwork, or tried to pull my desk out of the mind numbing cubicle, so actors should get the same treatment. Sure, it's not really an apt metaphor but I hated Growing Pains so I'll rant if I want to.

Also, I'll knock someone's faith if they're going to get preachy about the things they find wrong with the world–gays, general sinning, etc. Nobody's perfect Kirk.

Didn't Kirk Cameron get some actress fired from "Growing Pains" because she was a former playboy model and he didn't approve of that? so it seems that he was hating the sinner along with the sin.

what happened to "judge not lest ye be judged"?

that's one thing about (some) christians I don't understand. if they believe God will judge you, isn't it blasphemous for THEM to judge? or to consider themselves on the same "level" as God and therefore able to judge?

Kayla, you caught me on a bad day. Let me 'splain something to you. The type of faith this asshat - and you, by your own admission - promote is the most puerile, bigoted, nonsensical form of christianity imaginable. All of the good things christianity supposedly stands for (i.e. tolerance, charity, peace, etc.) is completely absent from your ceaseless condemnation and judgement of us sinners. In other words, blow me.

um…question…

"our God, the only true God"…"our" meaning WHOSE?

if you claim "yours" is the only true God, then your comment of "don't knock anyone's faith" kind of rings hollow.

Just cause I'm in one of those moods …

Kayla, your god is a douchebag, and his son is a douchenozzle.

Oh, and the holy ghost is the douche liquid itself.

It's my simple way of explaining the trinity. Kinda like St. Patrick and the shamrock.

Anyone else kind of see Alan Thicke in that picture? Never really thought they looked alike, but…
This is how deep I think.

I thought it looks like that Joshua Jackson … the guy on Fringe, I believe.

Not to be all preachy but because your parents divorced isnt a reason to stop praying. You ever think that maybe God has a bigger plan or maybe someone needed "magic" before you or was more deserving?

Maybe is kinda right. There are plenty of other quality reasons no to pray. For example, perhaps you just don't believe in nonsensical superstition.

hey, anyone remember Jude Law? if I were Kirk's wife, I'd feel better about him not kissing someone else than being all like, "But, baby, it's a part of my job! I just got to kiss her!" Plus, do you think that a guy who prays before each take is really going to object to Kirk not wanting to kiss a woman not his wife? Me neither.

And, wow, Cord, thanks for relegating anyone who prays to the status of "magic believer". You're not even just picking on crazy-ass fundies this time! I thought that your prejudice couldn't get a whole lot worse than your constant attacks on conservatives, but it did. Congrats.

And by the way, it's called free will. I have a feeling that if God dictated every action, no one would get divorced, no one would get an abortion, no child would be abused. But, God doesn't. So instead of complaining about God never letting anyone do anything we want to do, we get to complain about people doing exactly what they want to do, regardless of how anyone else feels about it.

not to get personal but cord i'm sorry that happened to you. it crossed my mind today that losing your family and your faith in one blow would be enough to destroy just about anybody. good on ya, just for not being a shell of a person today. resilience FTW.

Any literal belief in the teachings of Christianity is to believe in magic…pure and simple. It is…at its most dignified…a theory. It relies upon an unprovable belief…i.e. ghosts, the easter bunny, witches, vampires, etc.

Religion is an outdated method of teaching people right from wrong. It is no longer necessary to believe in a higher power to do right on this planet. Through social interaction and teaching compassion we learn to treat others as we would wish to be. All good will is not inspired out of the fear of God. Seems so much more sincere this way…(I kid)

Nobody who has faith should be persecuted for such…but it is cord's right to express his lack of belief just as it was yours to spout to him that a GOD he doesn't believe in was kind enough to GIVE his parents the free will to split up.

sar, you are such a better person than me. Thank you. I'm rolling my eyes at myself right now. (I'm entirely sincere about this, too; I promise, no snark, no sarcasm, nothing.)

Hear, hear, Caroline.

My parents divorced too, but lucky for me I never had any faith to begin with, so…no major loss!

Every time I hear "love the sinner, hate the sin" I can't help but think of that as a bald-faced lie that nobody believes. Even the person speaking that tired cliche.

One who loves the "sinner" shouldn't need to express that in words. Demonstrating it without judgement in acts of compassion, love, and respect do a lot more.

I've never been one to advertise my spiritual beliefs. They are mine. If anyone asks what I believe in, I'll tell them as much as they ask for. But I am not one to preach or prescribe my theology (or lack of it) to anyone. I've had too many people (well-intentioned and otherwise) do it to me.

Kirk really ran to Christianity when he was a kid. Wonder what he was running from.

Oh, and Alice? Don't take the name of the Lord Douche in vain. He will punish you with a smelly cooter.

Captain, message received :) Our Lord and Saviour, Massengil can be a son of a bitch at times.

is that what this crap was about? i saw this preview twice and knew deep down i'd avoid it like the plague. now i know why.

that was really sweet of you chezsan. don't overestimate me - i eat babies. a lot of people find fault with that, but i say, who can resist anything that's been dipped in honey mustard?