Wheat from Chaff

Scientology got a bum rap. One dwarfish ninny jumped on a couch and professed his love for his catatonic girl bride and soon the whole world was calling everyone with a copy of Dianetics a lunatic. So Scientologists don't believe in psychiatry; so what? Christian Scientists have been eschewing doctors for years, why isn't anyone terrorizing their places of worship with fake anthrax? It's bad that Scientology demands money from its followers? Then get that collection basket out of my face, father.
Scientology isn't evil, nor is everyone who espouses the beliefs of Scientology. Actually, there's some pretty cool Scientologists out there. After the jump, meet some.
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Cord's just trying to get himself off the list of SPs. Nice try, Jefferson.
They've finally got to you, huh? Save me a seat in van.
Cord… Are you Cruise'n on the S Train? Did Tom get to you?
yeah, once you see "the bridge" you'll think differently. the reason scientology has gotten such a bad rap is because former members come out and expose the secrets of the cult. the members themselves are not bad people, just weak people looking for an easy way out of their problems. scientology itself is VERY evil. your point about christian churches is a valid one but you forget that putting money in the collection basket is not required for you to find salvation unlike scientology which requires that you pay if you want any type of spiritual help.
This is who you put forth as "cool" Scientologists?
I find it surprising that Greta Van Sustern, or however the hell you spell it, is a scientologist. Not saying she's a cool one, just one that surprises me.
we warned him not to take the personality test but cord has to go and be a rebel.
Just because it's free doesn't mean you should take it.
Cord, say it aint so.. They got you? All of a sudden i feel like i'm in invasion of the bodysnatchers and you podded overnight..
I judge a religion as being good or bad based on whether its adherents become better people as a result of practicing it. ~Joe Mullally
evil twin, I was just thinking the same thing. I kept going to the next page, expecting to see someone "cool."
These are the coolest scientologists you could find? Isaac Hayes, the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth? Giovanni Ribisi? Really?
Cord as either 1. Lost his fucking mind….or 2. trying to get the comments up. Which is it mastermind?
Carl Anderson rules (even from the grave).
As do Chick Corea, Edgar Winter, Doug E Fresh, and Beck.
Oh, and pre-South Park Isaac Hayes, too.
6 minutes
6 minutes
6 minutes Doug E Fresh and you're on.
Scientology is NOT gay unless it likes it in the ass.
Personally, I don't think this
http://www.religioustolerance.org/medical2.htm
is any less crazy or horrifying than scientology.
Most of the irrationalities in Scientology can be found in all religions. (And this is coming from someone who would be dead if it weren't for psychiatric drugs. But, I still found it offensive that Cord went "so what?" SO WHAT?!!)
Cord is right. Christian Scientists encourage improper medical care, as well. Except they probably aren't terrorized as much simply because they do not get as much exposure. Speaking of exposure, the religion is also demerited because Tom Cruise holds such a high position.
Also, people point out how spooky the Fair Game Policy is or whatever, but the scariest aspect of Scientology is that Hubbard stated he wanted to start the religion because he knew it would make him a lot of money.
i don't support any organized religion. i believe in god but i don't think it's right for people to try to dictate how my relationship should be conducted.
relationship with god*
i hate trying to work and post at the same time.
Deimos, I think you should let God give you a golden shower.
NOW.
Holy shit.
I'm not funny at all.
Last night, I didn't feel like dancing, so when someone asked me to dance.. I was like "I'm not dancing, until gays can, too."
Thank Xenu the music was loud.
No, you're not funny you're a pussy.
Or maybe you're just fisting for compliments….
Not funny? I thought that was hysterical!
I think that Vanity Fair article proved that funny and pussy are mutually exclusive.
Each relegion is just as messed up as the next.
Yeah… no. Not really the same thing at all.
Scientology is EVIL
Its just not the same when you have to explain it. AA, I was joking. She's always calling me a pussy (cooter).
golden shower? who do i look like to you kim kardashian?
Ah. Better not get defensive with me - I almost got in a bar fight on Saturday night! And I'm sadly proud of that… I always wanted to come to blows with someone to see if I would win.
ps - I would have kicked her ass. She was little and full of shit.
Ah, thats a subject thats near and dear to my heart. I miss bar fights…..
Don't make me dread adulthood more than I already do.
Yeah, Scientology is evil, but not as evil as those Twizzlers rainbow twists. It's beauteous exterior bamboozles you into buying them, but they tastes like elephant urine.*
*Assuming elephant urine tastes really bad.**
**Yes, ASSUMING.***
***OK. That's a lie. I was playing truth or dare.****
****OK. I volunteered.
"It’s bad that Scientology demands money from its followers? Then get that collection basket out of my face, father."
I don't know what church you're going to buddy but mine doesn't DEMAND money at all. Donating to the collection basket is a personal choice and we're always told where the money is going to (getting computers for the computer lab at the school or fixing up the dilapidated steeple). Scientology DEMANDS money, and we're not talking throwing some change in the collection basket, we're talking thousands of dollars.
Big difference.
True, jill.
Check it out:
http://www.xenu.net/
There was this piece on, I think, Sunday Morning (god, I sound old) about churches that pretty much require a 10% tithe. I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the reporter said somthing about it being mostly evangelicals. It was really interesting because these churches, well the ones on the programs, had scores of community outreach programs. Actually, I think there were some who didn't have programs, but whose preachers had private jets. I may be mixing up programs though.
remeber, Adolph Hitler cleaned up crime and got the trains to run on time. I guess Nazi Germany was just the same as Modern day Sweden.
Additicted: At first, I was going to ask you if you lived in Texas. Then I realized you said SATURDAY night. Had you said FRIDAY, we were going to have to meet to make that little shindig come to fruition. :)
Haha, DAMN!
Ok, I'm looking at the Personality Test for Scientology, and I'm getting a whole lot of "WTF?"
Do you intend two or less children in your family even though your health and income will permit more?
Do you get occasional twitches of your muscles, when there is no logical reason for it?
Do you consider more money should be spent on social security?
Do you consider there are other people who are definitely unfriendly toward you and work against you?
Are you a slow eater?
Lisa #1 I've heard of that too. Although I wasn't up early on a Sunday morning watching anything on it, sleep in woman!
Anywho, I'm Catholic and I know we get a lot of grief especially when it comes to money issues. But in my opinion it seems to me that's more in reference to Vatican issues. Because I know, sure as hell, my priest isn't walking around in Prada. The guy can barely afford cable, not to mention the priorities being the school, events, and upkeep of the church itself. But who knows, maybe I just have a good experience within my own little world (we don't get preached to about abortion or anything anti gay either, you almost forget it's a Catholic church). Either way, I can't really take a "religion" seriously which was founded by a science fiction writer to make money as ilnazhad said. And don't get me started on the aliens in 747s…
Defending scientology? Cord, you're a fucking twat.
Blue Canary have you gotten to the "Do you like to rape babies?" question yet???
Priceless.
The Jenna Elfman outburst she had a year back totally made sense after I read that. I don't know if any of you guys remember/knew about it but she was being harassed by a paparazzo on the street then started yelling "D you like to rape babies" and other Scientology personality test questions.
Jill, I didn't see that (but remember the incident with Jenna Elfman), but I did find these nuggets:
Do children irritate you?
Are you ever ill at ease in the company of children?
"have you ever caused the genocide of a race"
that one is my favorite.
Blue Canary: I answered yes to four of the five questions…what does this make me? Do I get my own spaceship?
Just one word for all those interested in the creeptacular nature of Scientology:
Clearwater.
Look it up.
P.S. Hubbard wrote "Dianetics" as part of a bet with a friend - he won.
Wow. No need to call Cord a "twat."
Christianity is full of preposterous claims, too. Here is one of the many:
"The Gospels are based off eyewitness accounts from people who were alive at the time of Christ."
http://atheistblogger.com/search/jesus+exist wrote a great counterargument:
John was written around 90A.D, and he used this as an example. Given that the average life expectancy of people back then was much lower than it is today, the chances of someone actually seeing Jesus perform a miracle, and then living to be over 70 (if we take it as read that they would have to have been around 10 years old at the time of Jesus’ death) are remote at best. Even if this did happen, the eyewitness accounts of a child are rarely 100% accurate, and so we would have to find an eyewitness who lived to be around 76 at least, which 2000 years ago would have been even more miraculous than walking on water."
Why do Christians suddenly put emphasis on evidence when it comes to Scientology?
What scares them about the belief in aliens? There is no chance that there is a lifeform more powerful than us?
What is God then?
Those is such a load of Hoohah. I lived with someone who suffered from multiple personality disorder. She was sent as a last resort, because no other facilities in the Midwest would take her, to a "rehabilitation" scientology camp in New Mexico. We all read the "pamplets" and each and every one of us who read it was like "This sounds like a cult." Girl came back 6 months later completely whacked out of her mind. MUCH worse than her previous state. COMPLETELY brainwashed. Much worse than Christian Evangelicals… Moreso, demonic than just bible thumping crazy.
Those -> this. I suck at life!
Cord! May you give us a Norooz post?
I'll still dickride you if you refuse.
I thought Edgar Winter was dead!? Wheeeeere's Johnny? And the one eyed jack?
"Do you want to eat Payoti and human flesh on the path to Spiritual Enlightenment?….Or just for the Hell of it?
JOIN THE ANCIENT CULT OF ANAAZAAL.
…sounds tempting?
It's not so much the Alien's I don't believe in, it's them flying the 747's. Everyone knows their prefered mode of transportation is flying saucers.
I did a bit of research and discovered that authorities found no evidence connecting the protesters with the letters. In fact if you google "Operation Freakout" you will find that in the past church officials have claimed false threats in order to malign critics. Also, pressuring for a tithe at church isn't the same as requiring payment to continue practising. Scientology isn't evil but they do need a change in authority and policy.
ac,
Is he seeking girls who can run faster than him, or slower than him? Or both? Does he run a 5k, 10k, half-marathon, marathon, ultra-marathon? Which race is outside the one one he chooses to run? More information is needed.
Scientology is a cult. Plan and simple. It's just a big money filtering system that uses acronyms and bureaucracy to hide its motives.
So they don't believe in psychiatrists and because Christian Scientists don't either this is a good thing? All this does is make both parties ignorant.
I sort of got sucked into the Christian abyss where they had me sort of thinking there might be an invisible man and that my personality would want a perfect world after I die in the world where the dead join hand and enjoy bless together forever. But I had doubts always and grew up and became an independent thinker. They don't have that power over me anymore.
Neither could Islam, Judaism or Scientology control my mind or beliefs anylonger.
If any of these groups have sucked you in with outrageous lies and false promises in order to get you to give them tax free money then, break loose and start thinking "outside the box", as they say.
The promise of life after death deprives people a better understanding and a better appreciation of this life. It's not an equal exchange. There's no comparing what doesn't exist with what does exist. There should be no confusing. Selling lies with the promise of an afterlife where a soul/personality is intact should be illegal.
Scientology is sort of amateur psychology. But they sell wisdom a five year old has and repackage it for adults. It's not complicated stuff. The detox stuff I'd never touch just like I barely trust a medical professional. Cedars Sinai didn't give Quaid's twins the best care, if you know what I mean. Causing healthy newborns to bleed uncontrollably, isn't what I call care. So, trusting a relatively new religious group with my health is a big no no in my book. They may mean well but innocent people meant well when they told me my food allergy was acne. They meant well, but they had no science to back up their advice. I found out through scientific experiments I conducted myself that I had a food allergy and since then, I've discovered several other food allergies I have that my family members share which they learned after I shared my discoveries with them. I wouldn't trust Scientology to detox my body, I don't know enough about their expertise on the matter. I think they can be overreaching when they attempt to detox some people. Exercise, sweating and drinking water isn't a cure all for everyone. Sure it works, but it's heard they push people too far too fast and I, for one, would be the first to run out of there if they pushed me too hard. I also never drink bottled water from plastic containers, the smell of plastic in the water was apparent. People ignore that smell apparently. Companies sold impure water for a buck and I never trusted them. They had no history of ethical conduct, who would trust them?
For the same reason, I don't belong to any religious organizations: they are overreaching claiming to understand the Universe and the human body and human nature more than they actually do. They want money but have proven to lean toward unethical conduct, as history proves. Islam still stones women, Israel sacrificed children for Yahwey, Christians deny the real age of the earth and the time line that planets, light and life were created. They all fight each other over trite differences in their beliefs, they fight over fear that the other group has too many converts, they fight because it's so easy to point fingers and say that group is crazy because X, Y and Z. They are all equally deceiving the masses and selling things they should be required to have a license to sell.
Scientology is just selling a different god and his name is L. Ron Hubbard, a real man who couldn't possibly be an authority in all of the fields he claims to be expert about.
Public school is free. They teach people how to gain skills to get a job later. Religions attempt to teach about the soul, which is only the personality. People could learn this from a book, from their parents and from life. They sell lessons when they aren't experts on the subject. What they sell is of minor value. At least, Christians don't grossly overcharge for trite lessons. But do these lessons have any value? Yes, they have some value. But they are overvalued. In order to obtain these trite overvalued lessons, people's lives and dignity are greatly reduced.
All of these religions valued money most, more than truth, more than life. They want our money tax free so they can get rich and enjoy life. They lie to us so they can enjoy life with our money.
The reason Scientologists are being terrorized is because this cult has ruined the lives of countless people and their families.
whyaretheydead.com
And with that, I bid farewell to Mollygood. If there's anything worst than a Scientologist, it's their ill-informed apologists and defenders who compare it to other religions. I think I'll visit your sponsors today and see if you can't feel a slight pinch in your pocketbook.
I guess Cord is too balanced and rational for you, Sasha. You are just as close-minded as those zealots.
Good riddance.
Christian Scientists are prosecuted in the courts for refusing to get proper medical care for their children, as should Scientologists be. Scientology is clearly a cult, is based around the beliefs of a science fiction writer (from our life time) and essentialy demands payment for services rendered (making it a business, not a religion). Cord, unless this was a joke I am done with your site.
To each, his own.
To become futher aware of the risks of Scientology go to - http://www.xenu.net - http://www.xenutv.com - http://www.whyaretheydead.net - http://www.whyweprotest.net
Mussolini sure did keep them trains running on time.
Woo! Avoided a Godwin!
*kiss *kiss a la Heidi Klum-
"Au wiedezien mollygood…"
to me I don't think any religion is better than the other.
not all religions practice mind control. some give you the freedom to be who you wish wihtin that and don't conform you.
To me scientology is the ultimate conformist… whilst all appear different they are ultimatly all spouting the same inane chatter.
a religion that doesn't believe in Austism is not a religion I wish to be supportign and neither should you…
like catholicism, christianity and many other religions I see them as causing more harm than good.
I am not an athetist… I believe in a higher power I just don't have to have someone tell me exactly what it is.
stop defending the arseholes of the world. They do not make it a better place.
Can I repeat that…
STOP DEFENDING THE ARSEHOLES, THEY DO NOT MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
What a load of crap.
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.exscientologykids.com
look up wikipedia even!!!
If you want a gossip site that isn't a pro-scion puppet - go to http://www.gosslip.com
I FOR ONE, WON'T BE RETURNING TO THIS SITE.
Sorry, that should have been:
http://glosslip.com/
Yeah, leave Scientology alone! They aren't all bad.
Except for the Private Investigators
And the destroyed families
and the coerced aboritions
and the prison camps (RPF)
and the "thought-crime" (entheta)
and the "secret police" (OSA)
and the slave labor force (Sea Org)
and the phoney bomb threats (Paulette Cooper / Anonymous)
and the child abuse/neglect of thousands of kids(Jenna Miscavige / Astra Woodcraft / etc)
and the firvolous lawsuits
and the lie detectors and secret blackmail dossiers
and the secret sweetheart deal they made with the IRS where they are the one religion that actually gets preferential treatment from the US Govt and IRS. (Don't believe me? Google it!)
Except for all that they're a fine upstanding group of uber-ethical people. Rock on Scientology! Woo Hoo!
amen #75.
Jill, it wasn't a photographer re: the Elfman incident. It was a guy taking a stroll with his family. See that groovy shirt, top left side? Thats what he was wearing when fucking psychotic Jenna and her douchebag husband started on their baby raping rant.
Does anyone know where I can get one of those shirts? On the back it says VERY Gay with a picture of revolta from his stayin alive days….HA!
I'm not a regular on this site, but whoever the un-informed douche is who wrote this piece….maybe you should ask the $cienos about terrorizing places of "worship" with fake anthrax…you know…since they sent the shit to themselves to try to frame annonymous
okay WHAT in the hell is the big ad for $cientology right below???? You mean to tell me that on every $cieno thread they're buying advertising space? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's hilarious
NEWS FLASH! IT AINT GONNA CHANGE ANYONES MIND TO READ "THE FACTS" BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS OUT!!!
ITS TOO LATE DUMBASSES!!!!!!