And yet, still completely repulsive.

As for the link… eh, ok. Whatever.

He and his pa are communist sympathizers.. He's a 1st class jerk.

…I have a very difficult time listening to and tolerating the opinions of Hollywood people involved in politics, from either/all sides, their sense of reality and "the working man" is very skewed.
…or were you just referring to his guilt over Shanghai Surprise? Ooops, sorry.

I second Be Adequite's opinion. I have a hard time stomaching the political opinions of Hollyweirerds from all sides because their perspective's are often skewed and they have a sense of preachy entitlement that borders on arrogance. Like I should listen to them - even though most of there views are unqualified and unresearched - more than I should anyone.

But guys, he's an ACTOR. He knows how the working man feels because he can put himself in their place. I mean method acting is just as good as living it. Fer reals. He spent a semester living as a plummer. Just like in that movie Soul Man, but with butt crack.

Why does it have to be guilt that keeps a man fit? My husband plans to be in the best shape possible for his entire life. He has what I can only best describe as a tribal spirit. He is at heart a warrior - a man who wants to be prepared to protect his home and his family, and who wants to be healthy in his old age.

That probably doesn't describe Sean Penn (about whom I know nothing), but I really don't think that wanting to be fit in one's 40s, 50s, 60s, or even 70s necessarily has to do with vanity.

tlat: I took it more of a joke like, "wow, the weight of the world on your shoulders must be heavy." More about him being a sanctimonious prat than about his lats.

I would like to think that women can be warriors in the ways you describe too, Tlatz…hell I'll even run naked in the woods and bang some drums.

It depends on who else is running around naked in the woods. For instance, if it's Gary Busey, I'm putting my clothes back on.

He's older than Penn and looks in better shape since going on Celebrity Fit Club. And he also has a lot of opinions, I can't understand any of them.

I think you should be able to be a rambling idiot and chiseled abs.

He's dispicable. Although he's an American and technically has the right to say what he feels, it seems like he's very opposed to America, except when it involves him making a movie and living the good life.

Juju you crack me up…If Bale was in the woods I'd do it…TCruise or babywipes boy, no. Probably no to Winehouse as well, she'd cut you.

I think all the guilt is from having been married to the Anti-Christ, Madorianna. Yeah, he's still beating himself up over that one.

Lisa: I suppose. It just seemed more like Cord being sanctimonious to me.

BeA: Yes, husband wants me to be a warrior woman. I'm afraid I spent my entire life until meeting him avoiding exercise, so I'm not really there yet (thankfully I've only ever been slightly overweight, and I lost 20 pounds just by eating better food when we started living together). He is also stressing to his daughter that strength is as much in the mind as in the body, which makes me love him all the more.

She'd only cut you becuase she's probably having a bad trip and might think your the crack fairy.

Erm…why did I think this was Patrick Duffy rather than Sean Penn. I just spent the last 5 mins. looking on Patrick Duffy's IMDB page - (Did you know? In 22 years in show business, he's only been out of work a total of 3 weeks, as of January 2000) to find out about his politics.

I come back and damn it hits me, it's actually Mr Penn, hence Be Adequite's Shanghai "God-that-was-a-bloody-awful-movie-and-I-was-young-when-I-watched-it-so-you'd-of-thought-my-standards-would-have-been-lower-but-even-in-the-80s-I-knew-it-was-a-turkey-and-Madonna-couldn't-act-for-toffee" Surprise reference.

Way to go doofus! You stretched out the page.

I did not know that about Partick Duffy. He'll always be Bobby Ewing to me.

What's he doing? He's always in some Lifetime Tv movie. Usually a really cool adaption of a Danielle Steele novel.

Random about Duffy…thought he was dead! And yeah memories of watching Dallas with my parents…good lord it's amazing I don't write trashy romance novels for a living

Step by step, day by day……something something, difference anyway…..

Does he sing or something too?

BeA: it is like how I know Marc Sommers didn't commit suicide, but I am still always surprised when I see him on Food Network.

I was pretty shocked to see Peter O Toole was still alive. Unless he's recently died.

"It just seemed more like Cord being sanctimonious to me."

That's because it is.

I thought it was Patrick Duffy at first, too.

I think his liver shut down about 15 years ago ;-)

He's co-hosting an infomercial with 'Elle MacPherson' and Ellen Croft, for Ellen's "Supreme Pilates".
No world of a lie I saw this infomercial over the weekend. After Living had retired for the night it came on and bang Mr Duffy in lycra.

First that. Now this picture. I feel the universe is communicating to me through Le Duffy. But what's it saying? Am I gonna wake up in the shower tomorrow and the last year has all been a dream?

I am Skuzzlebutt! Behold my Patrick Duffy leg!!

Don't weave me into a basket.

I've not seen this infomercial you speak of. I hope I don't either. I have this really bad habit of thinking I need these things.

At 3 am and no sleep, everythign seems like a good idea. Like that pasta cooker thing. Becuase boiling water is too fricking hard.

You ladies are cracking me up Scuzzlebutt was the BEST

My favourites are always those Time Life music compilations. Its like 5 hours of elevator music for the price of 4. But everytime I am a sucker.

Or Ginsu Knives that come with 72.7% extra sharpness. And they cut through cans and you're like, yeah, one day I might need to cut through a can, that could be so useful. But alas, that day has yet to come.

Dude, I was all about the Popeil Food Dehydrator. I wanted to make my own jerkies and fruit roll ups. I actually bought the Magic Bullet. let's just say it was not as seen on t.v. I am taken in by character actors and accents every time!

The Magic Bullet always icks me out, because that is not a name for an item related to food, that is a name for a sex toy.

I just love how they always say you need to order in the next 30 minutes for the bonus. Like if you called in 31 minutes you wouldn't get the extra set of pairing knives.

I like when they cut the brick with the knife. That would be handy if you were Maguyver. He could use that knife.

MacGuyver doesn't need that knife he has a paperclip and chewing gum and a strand of her and a stray cigarette butt.

I want the Food Rehydrator.

I've always wondered about Bare minerals…wtf is that stuff

It's Soylent Green and Tom-ba juice.

Great for the sagging area under the chin.

Minerals, it's made from peeeeople. It's made from peeeeople. There are just times when you need that pre recorded message from Charelton Heston.

My mom bought that food dehydrator! We were suckers for the informercials. She also bought that seal - a - meal thing. The only thing that food dehydrator was good for was beef jerky. I tried to make banana chips, and they never got cripsy, only weird and rubbery.

I have that bare minerals stuff (see, the tradition of fixation by infomercial lives on). I actually really like it. My boyfriend hates it though, because he pefers me to not wear makeup. I usually don't have time in the morning, but I'll be damned if I leave the house without eyeliner.

My favourite was when Cher did that infomercial for Lori Davis hair care products. Hysterical. You know you're messed up when SNL does a spoof on it (back when SNL wasn't total crap).

And Chris Farley was Lori Davis? Oh that ruled!