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Last year, when I mentioned on this site Christopher Hitchens' Vanity Fair article "Why Women Aren't Funny," the backlash was great, in many senses of that word. "YOU ARE AN IDIOT, CORD," a commenter calling herself A FUNNY WOMAN wrote to me. As it turns out, women don't take kindly to men saying they can't do things well, nor do they like men mentioning men that say women can't do things well.

Such feminine rage was probably the impetus for Vanity Fair's latest cover story, "Who Says Women Aren't Funny?" Penned by drab New York Times television critic Alessandra Stanley, the rebuttal piece gets by with a little help from top comediennes like Tina Fey, Kristen Wiig and Wanda Sykes. And it could have been great, had it not included passages like this:

It used to be that women were not funny. Then they couldn’t be funny if they were pretty. Now a female comedian has to be pretty—even sexy—to get a laugh.

At least, that’s one way to view the trajectory from Phyllis Diller and Carol Burnett to Tina Fey.

Hey now! Isn't tacitly calling Phyllis Diller and Carol Burnett uglier than Tina Fey the same hierarchical bullshit chauvinists pull? Is this supposed to be a joke, lady?

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Mar 4, 2008 · posted by Cord Jefferson, MollyGood · Link · 45 Responses
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    No. 1 maria says:

    I don't think that "feminine rage" was the reason the article was written, (although I am sure, like your post from last year exhibits, there were probably a lot of letters after the Hitchens piece). I believe the article's headline was directed towards Mr. C. Hitchens, and displays the fine variety of female writers out there, who also happen to not be ugly lushes like ole' Carol Burnett.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:31 pm
    No. 2 Blue Canary says:

    Our culture is obsessed with beauty, so it's not surprising that comediennes feel the pressure, too.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    No. 3 deimos says:

    wanda sykes and tina fey aren't that great looking either, where do they get off implying that carol burnett is ugly? also, i have yet to see a sexy female comedian. wanda,tina, kathy griffin, margaret cho….all not lookers. i could go on but i'm to lazy to list them all.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:36 pm
    No. 4 Sugar Magnolia says:

    *place feminist rage/rant of your choice here*

    Not like we haven't read them all before and I really don't care enough to work myself up into a fury.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:43 pm
    No. 5 SeriousStyle says:

    I'm sexy and hilarious.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:48 pm
    No. 6 Jules says:

    Oh, remember what they say about opinions…
    regardless of what you think about these womens looks, they are hilarious. And there are so many others. Gilda Radner was one of my favorites growing up. They're all talented and that's good enough.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    No. 7 deimos says:

    this is true SS.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    No. 8 SeriousStyle says:

    Seriously SM.

    I just had my third root canal in less then two years done today. I have more shit to worry about then whether Vanity Fair thinks I'm funny or not.

    If this article were about the evils of dentistry. Then we could talk.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:50 pm
    No. 9 deimos says:

    i never said they weren't funny. their statement about how female comdians have to be sexy to get famous is just false. FALSE I TELL YOU!

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 1:51 pm
    No. 10 jujubees says:

    I only go to sexy dentists. You can only put your hand in my mouth if your a sexy mother fucker. That's how I chose all my dr's.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:04 pm
    No. 11 Kittenpaw says:

    Are there ANY sexy comedians? If anyone says Dane Cook, I'm going to have to have proof that he is funny.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:08 pm
    No. 12 jujubees says:

    I'm going to need proff he's sexy. My pouch says otherwise with the lack of tingling.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    No. 13 deimos says:

    dane cook is a douche but i did find his kool-aid man skit a little funny.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm
    No. 14 stopthemadness says:

    dane cook was hilarious like 4 years ago… and then he sunk into dildouchedom.

    his first comedy central presents is comedy gold, i think.

    alas, all the nonsense went to his head.

    "by a round of applause, how are you feeling."

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm
    No. 15 Lisa(#1), incarcerated says:

    Laura Kightlinger. Bitch is hot and funny as hell. And somehow, Jack Black dumped her ass for some pianist or flautist or something. I need therapy as to why I am personally offended by it.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    No. 16 deimos says:

    i think jack black dumped her for his high school girlfriend. i want to shoot myself for knowing that.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm
    No. 17 Julie says:

    FYI - Phyllis Diller appeared in Playboy. Just because girls get older doesn't mean she wasn't hot once.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    No. 18 Stunner says:

    What about Chelsea Handler? She's both sexy and funny….

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    No. 19 queencrone says:

    I think Ellen Degeneres is sexy and funny.
    But what do I know?

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:38 pm
    No. 20 jujubees says:

    Go on with your bad self QC.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    No. 21 a happy cooter says:

    Phyllis Diller did not appear in Playboy. She posed but the pics. were never published. Hmmm…

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 2:58 pm
    No. 22 Lisa(#1), incarcerated says:

    Feminine Rage, isn't that a new sort of tampon? Know what I hate ladies, it is when you lose your string and you have to go digging for it. Am I right? And what's the deal with public restrooms that don't have tampon dispensers? Do they want the river of estrus flowing from your womb down to your ankles visible for all of humanity? MENSES! Lady Bits! Fruit maker!

    ({})

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:00 pm
    No. 23 deimos says:

    i don't know lisa, it's sounds more like something you would douche with after waking up next to a loser after a night of drinking.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    No. 24 a happy cooter says:

    Yes, and what about when you forget that you have a tampon in and you "give it up". Then you have to go to the doctor and have it removed. Oh I just hate that.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:03 pm
    No. 25 stopthemadness says:

    go to your happy place, lisa.

    i'll tell you what… the tampons in the dispenser in my office building bathroom cost ten cents. TEN CENTS!! i actually went into the bathroom last week with a carl's jr. bag and a handful of dimes and bought as many as i could. that, hags, is the definition of ghetto.

    don't worry, the carl's jr, bag was grease free. nothing worst than sticking a greasy tampon in your hot pocket.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    No. 26 Sugar Magnolia says:

    I can just picture cord trying not to throw up in his mouth after reading Lisa #1's comment. You know he hates everything associated with female bodily functions.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:04 pm
    No. 27 ilnazhad says:

    Cord, can you say something I disagree with? I feel empty.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm
    No. 28 Lisa(#1), incarcerated says:

    dei: Or a new movie, ala Teeth, where a reproductive system crawls out of a woman, oozing and dripping gloopy bits of spongy uteral lining, casting off bits of blood and mucus, crawling slowly with an uneven and squishy sounding gait on the fallopian tubes toward the unsuspecting object of its FEMININE RAGE.

    Labia.

    ({})

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm
    No. 29 queencrone says:

    If it doesn't get all over the place, it doesn't belong in your face.

    (What, the carls' jr. commercial-STM brought up carls' jr. I'm just saying.)

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm
    No. 30 sexyback says:

    Deimos, you're totally incorrect by saying Tina Fey is not sexy. She might be the sexiest comedienne of all, if it even matters. But she is. Sexy. Even the little scar is sexy. And I don't even have a scar fetish.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:25 pm
    No. 31 deimos says:

    she not my type. also, she's friends with alec baldwin which makes me stomach turn.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm
    No. 32 seriously says:

    Vanity Fair is not exactly the litmus test for gender equality.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 3:47 pm
    No. 33 stopthemadness says:

    oh snap, qc!!

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 5:31 pm
    No. 34 evil twin says:

    I think Chelsea H. is hot too. I want to go out slutting and boozing with her.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 6:12 pm
    No. 35 jbonz says:

    There's a very simple reason that women keep focusing on beauty and estimating themselves in terms of their looks, and it's not because they are hopelessly brainwashed by the hated "Patriarchy" and it's not because "Society" is putting unbearable pressure on them to conform.
    Women inevitably stress their looks over all else because they stand to gain so much materially from their looks. Beauty is worth a lot of (easy)money in this world, and as long as women put money before principle, they will put looks before accomplishment. All the whining and blame-laying and finger-pointing in the world cannot change that fact.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 6:30 pm
    No. 36 Lisa(#1), incarcerated says:

    All of that is a gussied up way of saying that men work their way to the top whilst women get by on their looks. If only I had known to wear make-up when taking Scantron tests in high school, I would've gotten straight As!

    And those majority of "putting-looks-before-accomplishment" professional students (often the majority, by the way), they scored high on their LSATs, MCATs and GREs because they smelled purty. And those social workers and non-profit workers - wow, they are so vain! Gucci all the way.

    Just remember folks, it was the women who worked for Enron who put money before principle.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 7:25 pm
    No. 37 joined says:

    I authentically love you, Cord.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 9:15 pm
    No. 38 blah says:

    Is it weird that I of think Ricky Gervais is hot? I mean, he's not all that attractive, but (1), he's smart (2), he's hysterical and (3) that laugh of his is infection (in a good way). I don't know what it is about him, he's no Daniel Craig, but he's still sort of cute.

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 9:18 pm
    No. 39 queencrone says:

    I'll get serious for a moment. Women dress and look pretty for other women. (I hate to break the men's hearts.) It's not for the men. Not really, if you want to boil it on down.

    Yes, the men benefit. If you really watch, and think about it, looking pretty is all about competition among women, and the men just happen to be there, sort of as default judges.

    If you always keep that in mind, you can disregard it, and evaluate how far you want to go in the quest of beauty.

    When a woman is well turned out, freshly mani and pedi'ed, waxed and whatnot, you ladies all know that a compliment from a woman means a lot more than a compliment from a man.

    A complement from a woman is like a badge. You know it took a lot for her to admit it.

    A man is just thinking, "She has a pussy, and she is talking to me. Yes!!"

    Back to the beer! :-)

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 9:20 pm
    No. 40 jujubees says:

    Sorry qc. With all that reading I got thirsty and drank your beer. My bad. There is quite a bit of truth to that.

    Sure when you get dumped you hate the boyfriend. But one of your first thoughts is, I hope she's uglier than me.

    I have friends who don't go to the grocery store without make up. It has nothing to do with impressing men or hamburger meat either. You don't want to look like a hot mess when you run into the members of the PTA.

    You want to look hot for prom and your wedding and sure you would like to impress your significant other. But mostly because you want to look better than that friggin bitch, Tara. True story.

    I remember being quite ill and looking like death on a stick. And my boyfriends or husband still tried to lay their paws on me. Can a girl die in peace?

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 11:08 pm
    No. 41 ilnazhad says:

    Although men aren't that easily pleased, I do agree it is difficult for a woman to call each other beautiful. I always notice women will call ugly women beautiful (to be seen as kind) and say nothing to beautiful women (to not stroke their ego). It takes a lot of generosity. Unfortunately, women see each other as adversaries. Men may be more aggressive when it comes to bar fights and such, but women are aggressive in other ways. Just look at all the rumors women spread about each other. Look at all the train wrecks we see on magazine covers and how many of them are females and how many of them are males.
    Men will bullshit about how attractive you are to win you over, but women will bullshit to further their agenda, too. Why can't we just cut the crap?

    Posted: Mar 4, 2008 at 11:11 pm
    No. 42 jujubees says:

    Because cutting crap is disgusting. But I think you are a beauty and quite smart. That's not just bullshit or beer. You'll be president one day. Don't cut off my SS.

    Posted: Mar 5, 2008 at 12:03 am
    No. 43 ilnazhad says:

    Yikes. I wouldn't want to be a citizen of a country that would have me as a president….
    I would fucking love to command it, though. Then queencrone would be the First Lady and not just "my first lady" (INNUENDO! INNUENDO!).

    PS
    INNUENDO!

    Posted: Mar 5, 2008 at 12:34 am
    No. 44 blah says:

    Juju - I think you are talking about me. I am that chick who doesn't leave the house without eyeliner. I mean, honestly whenever I go out of the house without eyeliner or mascara on and get a glimpse of my reflection, I look sick - thereby making me feel like I'm sick. I don't want to run into someone and have them think I'm dying. I want people to think that I am refreshed and fabulous - even if I do have a hangover.

    Posted: Mar 5, 2008 at 8:36 am
    No. 45 maria says:

    On my way to a school function this past weekend, I ran into Parker Posey, she was walking her adorable dog and smiled at me and complimented my cape. I remembered this last night, because what struck me at first seeing her was how attractive she was, then I thought back to her movies, and goddamn she is really funny. Those Christopher Guest movies (love 'em or hate 'em) are improvised for the most part. And Parker Posey did an amazing job in "Waiting For Guffman". Also, Catherine O'Hara is foxy, speaking of Christopher Guest actresses.

    Posted: Mar 5, 2008 at 9:13 am
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