I think I'm going to throw up.

I saw the video on MSNBC last night and was disturbed, of course, but equally disturbing was the smirk on Palin's face after the word 'terrorist' was yelled.

This all just reeks of desperation, of course, and oh god I am hoping it keeps on backfiring on those Republicans.

*I mean McCain's face. They both smirk too much.

What's next? "CRUCIFY HIM! WE WANT BARABAS! WHEN DO WE WANT HIM? NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

i just can't find the words to describe how sick and frightening this is; the US is the most powerful country in the world and these tow have a decent shot of being in charge. this is enough to make me want to flee north america altogether if these to come to power( i live in canada).

Fear not. The way they're running their campaign into the ground, Grampy and Caribou Barbie are going to get blown out like Mike Dukakis did in '84 (I THINK that was the year). I think the only state he won then was Mass.

Also, I think Obama should be feeling pretty good about this. If all the republicans can do is talk about Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers, then that means they have NOTHING to run on. No issues, no real drama on Obama, nothing. All they can do is spark hatred now. And I'm loving it.

Both candidates suck. McCain is an A$$hole and Obama is no better. I can not believe that these two are the best our country has to offer us. Both these guys, no matter who is voted i,n will only be a 4 year sitting president.

I disagree JD. Both McCain and Obama are pulling shit out from the past because neither of the have an answer to todays problems. They think we are so stupid that they can distract us instead of dealing with the real issues.

I wasn't aware that Obama was pulling up things from the past. I saw a campaign add that stated that McCain was irraticwhen responding to a crisis. I think that was more in reference to McCain's grandstand attempt to look like he was capable of having any impact on the financial crisis. He "suspended" his campaign, while still giving interviews in DC, and then decided to debate again when he saw that it was the best choice for his campaign.

So if you mean mentioning things from last week when you talk about Obama pulling up the past, then I'd have to disagree. This at campaign ad is now. It's relevent, its today. And it's proof that McCain doesn't need to be elected.

Another ad by the Obama campaign linked Grampy to Bush by stating the fact that he voted the same as him in the Senate 90% of the time this year. That also doesn't seem much like the past.

Now if you compare things like that to McCain and Palin trying to tie Obama to a guy who did something when Obama was 8 years old. I wonder which one would fit your description more?

Also, Obama does have a plan to improve health insurance. It's very similar to the plan Hilary put forward.
McCain has a plan too but it involves taxing insurance for employees from employers, and giving people a so called tax credit of $5000 to find coverage on their own.

Anyone who's ever been unemployed and needed medical insurance knows that $5000 will not cover you for a year unless you never ever get sick. So there's one answer to a problem of today.

Sorry to rant, Ohboy, but I'm not gonna stick my head in the sand and say both candidates suck. Should we all just sit out the election next month too?

While I don't agree with Obama on everything (like voting for the bailout with extra pork, and extending the wiretapping bill), there is a stark and clear difference between what he would bring to the table as president compared to McCain.

Obama would bring our soldiers home. McCain has been quoted as saying that he doesn't care if we're there for another 100 years. Considering the price we're paying in lives, money (15 billion a month), and global respect, that's a pretty big difference to me.

I am not defending this video or anything that any crazy loon yelled out at a rally but. . .there have been some pretty bad things said in the comment sections of all the political posts on MG. Including people wanting to "shoot" or "kill" Palin. Is there really much difference? Just saying.

But McCain should act presidential and not like some a-hole - he shouldn't "ignore" shout outs like that. Even high school class presidential campaigns are more classy than this.

Slightly off topic Arrested Development tie in - remember when George Michael ran for class president and Gob made the video for him? "Steve Holt is a bastard."

We as voters cannot, absolutely cannot, allow the McCain/Palin ticket to win. If you are not registered to vote, do so today.

wtr, randon people spouting off any and everything is common. The problem is that we've got Palin goading these people on. She nodded when they shouted out their ridiculous lines. The problem is that McCain is calling him a terrorist. So to me there's a difference between the candidates actually saying it and enciting their followers at rallys compared to some random MG poster wishing bad things on Palin.

It's like she's at a monster truck rally or a wrestling match. She's getting the crowd all riled up. The difference between the comments here and the comments at the rally are usually we're talking all in fun. The people at this rally are so demented that they actually beleive Obama is a terrorist and want him dead. I say I'm going to kill myself about 5 times a day, do I ever really mean it?? NO!

And on that note, I wish Dick Cheney would put us all out of our misery and take Palin hunting with him one day.

Did you ever see the episode of South Park (or maybe it was Family Guy) where the community is trying to raise money for something and in order to get the citizens to agree to contribute a ton of money toward the cause, the mayor kept saying "terrorists" and "terrorist attacks" and that alone got the people throwing money around and all in for the cause. Some (not all) people in this country are so gosh darn igornant that as soon as they hear the word terrorist, they freak out.

Am I the only one absolutely terrified by this.
I am a brown woman that lives in the sticks-single mom also-I'm honestly scared for our safety because irresponsible cunts like Palin are inciting rage-bigotry further into the billies I live around. God help our country if this snowballs.

Obama's camp brought up the Keating five scandal, because democrats learned a valuable lesson during the last election about not responding to GOP attacks. Obama has class, and would never allow comments like the ones made at McCain-Palin rally to go unanswered. I think McCain and Palin are horrible, irresponsible people who want to incite fear, because they don't have a plan or even a decent opinion on any of the real issues plaguing our country today. This is going to blow up in their ugly, smug faces.

Farah - I agree. I'm a white woman and it scares me. I really think this will all backfire and McCain will lose, but is he giving a voice to all these angry scary hate filled people? It's almost like the beginnings of the Nazi party in the U.S.

It was Family Guy, Stunner. Lois got talked into running against Mayor West and won, and then got corrupted by greed. So everytime she needed money her speeches would always mention 9/11 and terrorists, and she got everything she wanted. Funny ep.

The one from Sunday night was hilarious too. There was a scene when Bush was giving a speech and talking about how he knows God's plan and God wants him to do this and so on… The Peter shows up on stage and says that's funny because I have Jesus right here. And Jesus starts telling Bush off, saying that he knows nothing of his work, and how Bush ever got to be president of anything is amazing. Then Peter deadpans the screen and goes: "Wouldn't it be great if life was like this?"

Also Malissa, the Keating 5 thing is relavent to the campaign because a lot of the business deregulation that allowed McCain to get away with that crime, plus the work he's done since has directly contributed to the current financial crisis.

"Stunner says:I think I'm going to throw up."

After the update I just did in my mouth. I am so sad.

Thanks for knowing it was Family Guy. Both of those shows are so funny, I often mix them up though. South Park comes back on tomorrow night! I'm really hoping they have one episode dedicated to this election season.

JD, all I remember of that epi is bird bird bird a bird is the word

Terrorists! Terrorists, I say.

Not nearly on the same level as RONALD REAGAN, who sponsored and encouraged more terrorism than Osama bin Laden, but those Palin supporters are trying to intimidate with threats of violence.

And Palin is encouraging them.

There is a LARGE majority of Republicans who think Obama is a terrorist. This is not just some small group of radicals who happen to show up at a rally. My father thinks Obama is a terrorist. I have Republican friends who send me crazy forwards with "evidence" that Obama is one month away from blowing up the country. People, this is real. This is bigotry. And I'm sorry to say, but a whole fucking LOT of Republicans are JUST LIKE THIS. Kill him! Sit down, boy! Terrorist!

*shakes head*

I know Stoney and that is why I am genuinely sad.

Just a question, if Sarah Palin wants to attack Barack Obama about his alleged "palling around with terrorists," then can she explain her own ties to the Alaskan Independence Party? I hope if McCain-Palin continue to hit below the belt, that someone brings up this issue. Her background suggests that she is a separatist, or at least a sympathizer. Is she really appropriate for the White House? Is John McCain's judgment really sound?

I guess this really is more than just a few nuts. Or is it that Grampy and Caribou Barbie's rhetoric is making all the loonies come out from under their rocks. It even spread to England…http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1070975/Man-shot-times-street-racist-gunman–wearing-Barack-Obama-T-shirt.html

Palin's encouraging them, JD. That's pretty clear.

Now I know where the expression, "going to hell in a hand-basket" comes from. And I thought our prime ministerial candidates here in Canada had some nasty things to say about each other!
"McPalin" scares me now - and the spectre of them possibly "living next door" scares me even more. They embody everything that needs to change.

Yeah I know. The double standard is just astounding. Remember the flack Michelle Obama caught just for saying she was proud of the country? She was so unAmerican. Just imagine if the republicans had anything substantial to go on.

Yet Palin gets to give speeches to a secessionist group whose founder stated that he didn't want to be buried under America's "damn flag". Palin just gave a speech to the group in May of this year. Her husband is a member of this group. Yet no one questions her patriotism, or questions her when she talks about how Obama "isn't like us."

These republicans are supposed to represent the "religious" right???? Please explain to me where I might find support for bigotry and racism in the bible…they are nothing more than an illiterate bunch of hypocrites. I pray to God that Obama wins this election in a landslide over that foolish old man and his pretty, but stupid, parrot.

If McCain had any integrity (left) he would make a public plea to his supporters to stop this counter-productive, hateful nonsense. His failure to respond to such uprisings at his rallies is a clear signal to me that he "approves this message" that they are sending. What else are they going to do to tear this country apart, and stir up more irrational hatred and prejudice?
And if John McCain doesn't have the common sense to ask, I will. Please stop this abhorrent behaviour.

It is turning into a pathetic cliche. FOX News? check. Maverick-talk? check. Florida? check. It is not the Republican party that I recall as a middle-school and high school student in the mid-80's (gracious Reagan) it is a f*cking mess with a bunch a hillbillies running around with less than average comments being made by the McCain party. Classless and stupid.

Stoney–I got 'em in my family and let me just tell you how NUTS they are. INSANE. Really. Everyday in my inbox are chain USA Blingee messages reminding you to send it on if you are a true patriot and love your country. Guess I don't 'cuz I just sent it right to the trash bin

Bedbugs-maybe the John McCain of a few years back would have spoken out but this John McCain has totally sold himself out to the hard core GOP and he's just along for the ride. Too bad it's a downward spiral and he'll be toast after the election. He's done.

A little off topic–I love how Cindy has to wear flashy gem studded patriotic pins on her lapel. She should just wear a diamond and ruby encrusted prescription bottle. That would be fly

I am shocked and frankly, pretty damn scared, that this is the way actual adult people behave. These people want to be in charge of our country, have relations with other countries and be our voice? Holy hell! I hope and pray that they don't win this election, all my faith in humanity will be lost. I live in Tennessee, so I see the lawn signs for these two dimwits all the time, I hope to God the people who live around me really aren't that stupid. I thought Obama was supposed to be the anti Christ (not my belief mind you, but I have received those emails too) McCain and Palin are looking more and more like it too me.

I'd love to hear the whole context of that… "Who is the real Barack Obama? You ask such questions, and all you get in response is an angry barrage of insults."

From the Democrats? From who?

Is it just really ironic that some ignorant asshole started an angry barrage of insults?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, Cindy, wipe that face off your head.

The Fighting Dukaki (His running-mate was Lloyd Benson remember?) was 1988, 84 was Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro. Wow, just wow…I know everyone has a voice in America…but racial epithets at a sound guy? are you kidding? He's a friggin sound guy…he holds a microphone…AND he gets paid shit for it! Ahhh so you wanted to be in TV. Can we just get Karl Rove up on some Treason charges? This is ALL his fault!

eh? Did I miss something?

Sorry - I think I'm losing my mind. I swear there was a really weird post here a second ago.

Um, okay. Wordpress is a bitch "David Hauslaib Why are you deleting arabic postings here? are you a racist? YOUR ONE OF US!" Don't take it personally.

No, kittenpaw, you're not losing your mind. There was an arabic posting there a minute ago. But then David Hauslaib deleted it.

swedish, it makes me really ashamed of my father in a way I've never been before. He owns a small business and believes if Obama is elected it will be taxed until it closes. I sent him information from factcheck.org disproving that, and he still doesn't care. All I get everyday is countless emails about illegal aliens, taxes and Obama not being a real American. SO FUCKING SAD.

abe = Stoney.

Just fucking around again and forgot to change it back.

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!

Above was directed at the arabic post.

Can I just state for the record that I love Abe Lincoln and related tchotchkes. I even cross stitched Abe Lincoln's likeness on a onesie for a baby shower.

*finishing thought..

So I was really excited when Abe Lincoln was posting here.

Well dammit I didn't know I was going to end up revealing myself. Ah, the downside of being blonde…

What did the arabic post say? Now I'm dying of curiosity!

Thanks for crushing my dreams Stoney. ha ha.

Pull my beard.

Abe if that is like pull my finger but more interesting I'm in.

So tonight do you think McCain will resort to calling Obama a terrorist instead of answering the questions?

He's one brave idiot if he does.

Recently the actions of the McCain/Palin camp have reeked of political desperation but this goes beyond the pale.

They have given up even the pretense of not agreeing with or encouraging the extremists among their supporters.

I have lost any respect for the once GOP maverick, former POW John McCain. When (if) he searches his soul I'm sure he doesn't even recognize himself.

How can intelligent, thoughtful Republicans stand by and allow their once "grand old party" to disintegrate into this vileness?

It all has a nazi-esque feeling to it. Is terrorist a new party we can vote for? If I vote for Obama will I be considered a terrorist? Terrorists need to come up with a new name because the words lost all its impact if little Miss Suzy Sunshine can be one to based on her voting preference. I'm going to need to go shopping to update my wardrobe terrorist style. Look, it's beer time.

Juju, they did, it's Meteorologist. Long story.

Oh, my God.

I'm cold inside.

This is the 21st century, isn't it?

ISN'T IT?

I'm truly, genuinely horrified to stumble upon this thread this evening. So much so I can't begin to say which emotions and thoughts are clear enough to express.

But there's one unpleasantly familiar thing:

A huge economic crisis that borders on panic. A home-grown politician appealing to xenophobics. An innocent scapegoat.

Tell me again that it IS the 21st century and that we're a better people than this.

Please. For the love of God.

And I've just forwarded the linked WaPo article to everybody I know.

I'm not going to let this slip under the radar if I can help it.

Poo, I am sorry I am so simplistic at times. Maybe esoteric is the word I am searching for.