
New rumor: George Clooney dumped cocktail waitress girlfriend Sarah Larson because she got a breast augmentation. If this is indeed the case, was Clooney's reaction acceptable? We say yes, because the surgery reveals an insecurity that can be hell on relationships. What do you think?
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I've known women who have had this done and are totally fine. I also know women who never wear makeup, are totally against surgery, seem totally secure in their appearance, and yet turn out to have severe self-destructive and relationship destroying insecurities. But wouldn't there be tons of publicity if she was seen with noticeable implants after everyone has see her without them? People tear this woman apart as it is right now…
Maybe he just doesn't like fake breasts. If that's the reason he ended the relationship, you gotta love a guy who'll take small, real breasts over large, fake ones….
I'm with Pepaw on this one. I feel people who have surgery simply for the sake of vanity, definitely have underlying issues. It seems like a vicious cycle. Once they get one area "corrected" they focus on another imagined physical flaw, or inadequacy. There is always something wrong with them… in their own eyes.
I don't think there is anything wrong with him breaking up with her, even if it was over breast implants. Besides, it's never been a big secret that George doesn't stick with one woman for long. I just hope that she enjoyed the ride while it lasted, because now it's back to reality with the rest of us common folks.
I just wonder, what if one boob was bigger than the other - or she got a reduction, would it be the same question? Or are all plastic surgeries on equal footing?
If this rumor is true, then I hope he at least voiced his opposition to the surgery. If he said it was either the implants or him (which shows a true acceptance of someone as they are — she should be grateful he wasn't pressing her to leave the IBTC), then good for him. Like others have said, for a lot of women, one surgery is like a gateway to a never-ending quest for the perfect body that always ends badly. Nobody wants to fall in love with their version of the "perfect woman" who has such low self-esteem that she butchers herself into a Jocelyn Wildenstein look-a-like.
If she wasn't happy with her breasts, why didn't she have the right to "fix" them to her liking? People get braces and no one says they have issues; it's really in the same vein. -I look at individuals with blindingly-white teeth as people who are kinda overly-insecure about themselves as I do women with over-the-top tits. And the truth is, this guy isn't known for his desire to create long-term romantic partnerships with women, so it's better that she took care of herself rather than feeding into his wishes.
That being said, I find it hard to believe that a guy would really break up with someone just because of implants. I know there are men who really don't like them, but if you were in love with someone, would that be enough to say goodbye? Don't you think there had to be other issues there? Like maybe he's intelligent and driven, and got tired of a cocktail waitress riding on his coattails?
Hear-hear!
Just because she's is a cocktail waitress, doesn't neccessarily mean she's dumb. Obviously she's attractive and perhaps she made better $ in Vegas than using her degree in Oregon or somewhere. He's very talented and probably has a few insecurities himself; maybe one of those is that he might never find true love because he doesn't know for sure if she really loves him for him or if she is just trying to make "it". I've heard that she might be posing for playboy and some other "reality" crap so he's probably made the better judgment call on this one.
Who cares. The free ride is over. She can go back to normal life and maybe can be a manager at Hooters.
Reductions are usually done because the person is suffering from physical ailments due to the extra weight straining their back and shoulders. I don't consider that a vanity issue. And the lopsided issue. It must be hell to find bras and buy clothes. I'm referring to women who look in the mirror and are constantly finding flaws, "my breasts are too small, my lips are too thin, my thighs are too big, my stomach sticks out." His girlfriend had a great figure from the start. What was there to fix?
Ahem… *former* girlfriend… ahem.
BBB: good points. Just so you know, I was wondering if Cord would have still asked the question "is it acceptable?"
I knew a girl with smaller chest than I who got a reduction in HS - not for medical reasons/ back hurty reasons. Small boobs were "in."
As for me, here, I don't think it is my place to accept or not - his decision or hers. Some people get A nose job, some get like 5. Some people find plastic surgery of non-necessity gross, some don't. I don't know her or him, their values or their deal-breakers. All I do know is that I am sick to death of seeing the stupid Other Boleyn Girl ads.
BBB, that's the thing. "Great" figure is in the eye of the beholder. Did she really get a boob job, anyway? I saw pics of her in a black dress (loose fitting) and they weren't popping out anywyere. Also, Maria, you're totally right about the "dumb" not being synonymous with "cocktail waitress." I'm just pickin' on the girl. Still, she's got that sort of vapid smile that makes me think she won't be doing much more than possibly posing naked or returning to her old haunts anytime soon.
I broke up with a dude because I found out he had a nosejob. He was totally secure with himself (and he would speak openly about his surgery), but I couldn't get over how vain this made him.
Why would you literally dehumanize yourself?
Because she didn't get the surgery yet, he should have voiced his disapproval. Maybe she would change her mind.
But a part of me also thinks that the fact that she even considered the idea is pathetic.
Breast implants scream and beg for sexual attention. She’s not a fucking pre-teen.
And planning to get cosmetic surgery is a “fuck you” to everyone who looks like you. You’re telling everyone with a similar appearance that they are inadequate. That’s what bothers me the most. You’re calling everyone who has features like yours ugly in the boldest possible manner.
Well, some people are fucking ugly. Does that mean that they should get plastic surgery? No, but hell, who am I to tell them what to do. And not linking something in yourself doesn't mean hating it in others. It may, but not necessarily. Walk a mile in their shoes and whatnot. Not only do I not take it as a fuck you to similar looking people, I reject the notion that everyone needs to be a role model or take into consideration the general population's feelings for a choice like this. You may want to but it is by no means incumbent. Also, breast implants to not necessarily scream out for sexual attention - I mean, Pam Anderson's do - but going from an A to a B, not really.
I pluck my eyebrows and put on mascara before I got to parties. So, I'm really insecure about my hairy ass brows. I need therapy!
I think he was justified in breaking up with her, although it was probably more for her lack of a personality than the implants. There is a differnce between reconstructive surgery and elective surgery. I've heard people say 'if it makes you feel better, why not?' The thing is, it shouldn't make you feel better about yourself, to have bigger boobs are a smaller nose or whatever. Now, I know this is unrealistic, as we all feel better when we feel we look better, like how I feel after an eyebrow wax, but I still think surgery is so extreme. You are getting your body cut open, having a piece of plastic shoved under your skin, and getting it sewn back up again. You are going under anaesthesia, risking your life, for what? That high that you get when you think you look good? For a few weeks, at most? Getting highlights or getting your nails done is not comparable to something so extreme.
Luz, I totally agree. Cheers.
And I totally agree that the whole cutting up your body to insert silicone sacks is totally fucking weird. And I totally agree that putting yourself under and spending like 10,000 USD on it is reason to break up with someone. And I really want to disagree with ilnazhad about it being a slap in the face, but I feel the same way about eye color for some reason. As when some actress in some movie talks about how they uglied her up by putting brown contacts in her eyes I want to fucking scream. And what's most disturbing is not that people get plastic surgery to look better, but that they get it to look like the same fucking person.
It's not like she was hideous to begin with - she was super pretty, with decent sized boobs. I've seen pictures of her, post-breakup, on red carpet events with her new boobies (what is she there for??). And there's talk of her doing Playboy. Something tells me George figured out she was a fame whore.
Maria- Another thing that seperates plastic surgery from plucking your eyebrows and applying mascara is that unlike plastic surgery these are not deceptive and permanent. People know that you have makeup on and that you shaped your brows. And, sadly, these are often expected for special occasions. (Of course, being obssesive about makeup is also vain. But wearing some to parties does not mean you are vain.)
Say you are taking care of a garden that is very special to someone. Wearing mascara is like adding a gnome to the garden. Plucking your eyebrows is like pulling the weeds out of the garden. But getting plastic surgery is like removing the plants and adding new ones. (I don't think it is fair to compare adding silicone to your breats to planting fake plants, because cosmetic surgery does not make your body unable to function.) If the garden is beloved, the owner would be really upset to see you have removed all of her plants.
OK, go ahead an kill me in the face.
I'm such a fucking dork.
Fake Plaaastic Trees.
LOL ilz
You're like hundred years ahead of yourself. I'm sure someone’s nana here told them that their vag was a special garden too… and not to mow their lawn for a guy and so on and so forth. Sure, there are huge differences between getting surgery and wearing make-up but drawing that line isn't easy. Some people get their stomach stapled and for what reason (maybe health, maybe to look better)? I think plastic surgery is ok as long as you are happy before you get the procedure done. I like the way I look but someday my arm flab will really grind my gears and instead of lifting weights I might get that flabby shit cut off. But I'm still gonna be a jolly old lady before that ever happens. Maybe my sisters will keep their arms flabby and lift their boobs, I won't feel personally offended, I would be happy for them. Maybe no one I know will do this, that's ok too. Happiness starts with not being jealous of others and being proud of accomplishments and personal character. So, when that's out of the way, I say do what you will.
no. it would be like planting fake plants underneath the real ones and then digging them up and replanting new fake plants every ten years.
Having had my body sliced open and my innards removed and put back, (it's technical term is c-section), and for the the next 2 weeks having the feeling that if I stood up straight I was going to rip in half and all my innards were going to gush out of me in a big bloody mess, yes I do think people who have surgery strictly for vanity reasons have a few screws loose.
That being said, I think these women are way too hard on themselves. They get sucked into this media driven image of what the perfect woman should look like and risk life and limb to obtain it. I'm of the belief you should make the best of what you naturally have and go with that.
"Happiness starts with not being jealous of others"
People who get plastice surgery are often jealous of others, that's why they imitate someone else's appearance.
"and being proud of accomplishments and personal character"
Plastic surgery often means you are focusing on your appearance and not your accomplishments and personal character.
PS
There are many people with plastic surgery I still think are wonderful.
Breastfeeding has messed up my boobs, I think probably after another two or three kids I might have some reconstructive stuff done to them. What weirds me out is how some people get nose jobs and look like completely different people. I would freak out if I looked in the mirror and no longer looked like myself.
Well, what about those who ascribe to the belief that people should love what is beneath the garden? Also? If you are unhappy enough to get plastic surgery it seems like some of you are saying it is better to stay miserable for your mate's preferences rather than be happier (which I know is debatable) and risk losing that mate. That sort of makes me uncomfortable. I just think there is a whole lot of blanket statement-ing going on and really? Motivations are as diverse as the surgeries.
L, I had a friend say brown eyes are boring, but they suit me! And she didn't think she was insulting me or anything. Anyway. I think people who are really happy with themselves don't entertain the idea of getting plastic surgery. Once again, I know we all have something about ourselves that we don't like, or bothers us, but most people just accept it and get on with their lives. Having small boobs should not concern someone that much that they would risk their lives to get it "fixed." In essence, it seems like women (and some men) are saying that yes, they would risk their lives to have smaller thighs, or a smaller nose! I love watching Discovery Health, and the surgeries they show, and there are women who save up for years, who have no extra money, who get plastic surgery. There are parents who pay for their daughter's nose jobs! This is a parent basically telling their child that they are ugly enough to risk their lives to look more "beautiful!" It's sick! It's offensive. Not to mention, the result often looks worse than the person looked before! Plastic surgery is treated as very blasé in some circles, and then when someone dies, people remember how serious surgery is. I may not be happy with how I look, but I would never get my body cut open, and risk my life, to fix it.
The new boobs were just the tip of the iceberg, and Clooney's a smart guy. He knew it. She had already used their relationship to gain a spot in Harper's Bazaar. I might have continued to feel a little sorry for her if she wasn't photographed on Robertson in front of the Ivy yesterday, and considering Playboy. She gambled, lost, and is now desperately trying to extend her 15 minutes. Uh, Sarah? Buh-bye. And, on your way out, can you grab me another drink? Thanks.
"If you are unhappy enough to get plastic surgery it seems like some of you are saying it is better to stay miserable for your mate’s preferences rather than be happier (which I know is debatable) and risk losing that mate."
If you are unhappy with your breasts, I don't think you should get plastic surgery. I think you should learn to accept your appearance and work on your strengh of character. For me, it's like having vines growing on your house, and instead of chopping of the vines (dealing with the insecurity that is consuming you), you demolish the house and start anew. The vines are still there, but they have nothing to grow on yet.
If a woman had breast cancer and then she felt insecure about the one boob missing and decided to remove the other so that they are both even, is that vain. Should she just accept her appearance? Should her BF or husband leae her? I think not. Like Lisa#1 said: there are too many reasons that women (and men) get plastic surgery to make broad generalizations.
*leave*
Wow. I guess I'm vain because I had braces to straighten my teeth, and 'cause I color my hair to cover up those sneaky grays. You hags send me your pictures again, 'cause I want to see you in all your natural glory.
Maria- I never said that getting implants after having your breasts removed because of breast cancer is wrong or vain. I was referring to cases like Larson's and I didn't even use absolutes. I know someone who has deformed hands and she got plastic surgery. Do you seriously think there are never cases where I am supportive?
Who are any of us to judge what another woman does with her body? Yes, it's sad that we live in a society where women are measured by their physical appearances, but I don't think it's right to consider the women who conform to that pressure to be broken, emotionally and physically damaged women. If this situation should show us anything it's that we don't need to be more judgmental, and no one understands another person's values, motivations, or background.
Ilz: that is a far cry from "If the garden is beloved, the owner would be really upset to see you have removed all of her plants."
I don't know, I think it is untrue to say that there are no ugly people. You can tell people what they *should* do, but life sucks and no-one is perfect. I am pretty satisfied with my looks and I am not going to be getting a nose job anytime soon, but that's me. I hesitate to upbraid people when I have no idea what it is to hate looking in the mirror, every day. I mean, maybe some people will never be ok with the way they look. And maybe it isn't insecurity to not like the way you look. For some it is, but I hesitate to say it is that way for all.
Fuck it. It's time for my Botox and Restalyne injections.
I agree with your statements Lisa. Trust me, I know nobody is perfect (Cord isn't even perfect!!) and you know I won't shut up about how the world sucks. And I never said there are no ugly people. But I think there is a laudable modesty in accepting being one of the "ugly ones." Not getting plastic surgery when you are commonly considered ugly is a great way of saying "hey, I don't care that all eyes are not on me! i'm fine with looking like a smurf!" That merits respect, no?
I think we already established that things like tweezing, plucking, (braces), dyeing your hair and applying make-up are very superficial, non-intrusive things. And plastic surgery was originally created to help restore deformities that were a result of war injuries. Reconstructive surgeries. That, in my opinion, is a good thing. I believe the part about plastic surgery that is baffling some people, myself included, is the willingness to risk the possible side effects and painful recovery that accompanies. To me, it just doesn't seem worth it. But, as Lisa stated, i don't know the mindset of people who look in the mirror every day and hate what they see. There must be something inside them that makes it worth the risks.
Oh, absolutely, Ilz. And there are plenty of "ugly" people who, through sheer force of being, are nonetheless attractive. And I do understand that it would be great if everyone could accept themselves for how they were born (myself included). I guess I am just saying each situation is different and some people deserve some slack. It is hard to live up to those high ideals. And it is good that those high ideals exist.
Please. I'm sure he's gotten some Restylane. She's from Vegas and now lives in LA right? Well, fake tig ol bits are all the rage in both places. I really think if I were to move to LA, natural ones, even super perky natural ones, would start to look substandard compared to the whole porn star chic look.
I live in the North East and am a walking advertisement for Banana Republic and J Crew. Why would I pay to enhance a body part that has not seen sunlight since 2003? It doesn't make sense so I can't relate to her. I will say that GC seems to pick young, naive women who are under the false impression that he'll marry them. That goes hand in hand with insecurity. If that's his reasoning for dumping her, he needs to re-evaluate his choice of partners.
Well cute boobs aren't handed out to everyone.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with implants. I don't think it's wrong for George to break up with a woman for getting them either. To each thier own I say. Of course, I have a hard time accepting the fact that THIS was the reason. Sounds like just a convenient excuse.
I wouldnt know anything about this subject…..my breast have only been described as "perfection".
Who cares! I am just hoping she gets out of the spotlight as quickly as she got into George's bed. She's a skank, glad he ditched her.
LOL, braces and implants are the same thing! Whoever said this, that's rich.