The real shame is that anyone can be a parent. Kids come into this world so innocent and full of love and trust, and we fuck them up with hate and ignorance.
Chelsea, on that note, I'll leave with one of my favorite movie quotes…
"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father."
My father always said he thought that people should have to pass a test to be a parent. I always thought he was crazy, then I grew up and realized he is right.
Brilliant! Teach them to hate while they're still young. If not, who knows what will become of them, they might grow up to be accepting, loving, forgiving, even empathetic grown ups. God forbid.
If the patterns of behavoir hold true, when they become teenagers, they will disregard any and all
political views held by that their parents. (with scorn)
If you are in a domestic partnership with a same-sex individual for "insurance reasons" then you are "gay" because its convenient for you so you can reap the benefits.
It's taking advantage of something that gays have worked hard to achieve.
You might want to re-read what silent noodles said. They didn't say they were gay, but that prop 8 will affect them as a result of them being in a domestic partnership.
Haydn - Prop 8 wont affect domestic partnerships. Prop 8 is proposition to give marriage back its original definition of union between a man and a woman.
say what? - The person never said if they were living in a same-sex situation. However, I beleive it was implied by saying "Im not gay" meaning "Im not gay, but still living with the same sex for insurance reasons". Thats what I took away from the statement. And in any situation being partnered with someone for "insurance reasons" is wrong.
Chelsea - Take it however you want, only the person who left comment knows the real answer. Regardless of what the situation is entering a partnership for "insurance reasons" is wrong, and taking advantage of the govt.
say what? - Yes, I have already clarified that is how I assumed the comment read. Of course I dont know, as I said earlier the only person that knows the real answer is the person that made the post.
Just like YOU believe Chelsea's response was a better assumption, but you dont know right?
It has nothing to do with marriage, it has to do with taking the rights away from a group of people. Remember segregation people? What next? Are the gays going to have to shop at separate stores and use separate bathrooms? No on 8, No on Hate. The government shouldn't have the right to take anyone's fundamental rights away from them, I don't care who you are.
Yes on Prop 8-It is not a same sex partnership asshole, I am in a committed heterosexual relationship and have chose not to get married as of now. I have been with the person for 8 years, we own a home and share all the bills. So just because I don't have a piece of paper stating that I am married means I am not entitled to insurance?
Oh nice. My assumpting was right, Yes. So why don't you now go silently question the truth in all your other assumptions. Namely that gay marriage is wrong or some way to cheat the system. We'll wait.
Matt, it was my own spelling error. I'm allowed to correct my own. And it's you're. You mean to say, "You're all losers". It really takes the bite out of an insult if you don't get that correct.
"If my dad is a woman or my mom is a man, yes on proposition 8."
You know, a gay man could have written a song that actually rhymed.
Just goes to prove that some conservatives are overly interested in what others are doing with their genitals. Pervs!
But lets just call it what it is (just like 2004) a way to energize "the base" and get some votes for McCain. An illusory non-issue, and these folks don't even know they are being used.
Grrr, Matt outed himself! I was gonna come in and swear up and down it was Matt and I knew it - I'm telling you I can tell that writing style from any other commenter's.
Except Broomstick's. Heart you broomie, you crazy bitchface.
There is currently a battle being waged for the very foundation of our civilization and for the fabric of our society. That's right, people. I'm talking about those crazy men who want to marry one another and be legally recognized as partners. Or those crazy women who want to do the same.
When will it end? How will we, as a society, carry on? This is more than just an issue about values and religion and the Bible saying that homosexicality is WRONG. (The Bible also says that we are not to work on the Sabbath (thank you lord… everyone knows that the Sabbath is for drinking and football). The Bible also says that touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean (darnit, lord! how am I supposed to drink and watch football on the Sabbath, then? Must I become British and start watching soccer?).
No, this is not simply about religious values, people. This is an issue of national security. It is a well-known fact that homosexuals are not really people like you and me. Rather, they are a group of deviants. Evil doers. People who love *gasp* OTHER PEOPLE. But here's a little known fact–they are undead. Their insides are on the outside. And they have red beady eyes…. with LASERS. Yes. LASERS.
If we allow them to marry, they will promptly take over the universe, vaporizing everything in sight with laser-like precision.
Alas, there is not much that can be done about Laser Gays. We do not yet have the technology. Perhaps if we stop being such idiotic bigots, and stop wielding religion as a weapon to promote intolerance, and instead afford gays and lesbians the same rights that we, as heterosexuals, afford ourselves, we can seek out the Laser Gays and form a coalition. We can ask them to teach us how we can become Laser Straights. Or Laser Bisexuals. Or Laser Asexuals. Or Laser Transsexuals. We can put a laser in the eyes of every man, woman, and child in the world.
Let's work together. We *must* work together. Why? Because I have it on good authority that the Laser Gays are going Nookyular. And if there is one thing worse than Laser Gays… it's NOOKYULAR GAYS.
silent noodles, when dealing with matt, one must use pictures cards.
his/her reading comprehension skills are as piss poor as his/her grammar, spelling, and ability for critical thinking.
yeah, that's right matt. i'm calling you a lady. because i don't know any real man that says "Ewwww!!!" and if you are a man, i feel sorry for you because i think sarah palin has more testosterone.
you're like jessica wakefield. or elizabeth wakefield. whichever one was the bitchy annoying one who kept stealing everyone's boyfriend.
I worked on the Sabbath once. Big mistake. It's a sin, turns out. I covered myself with sackcloth and ashes and I declared it that my name be changed to Laser, to acknowledge my sin.
1. It doesn't rhyme. This has been pointed out before, but I don't think it can be stressed enough.
2. What is this "my dad is a woman or my mom is a man" business (that may not be exactly the quote, but it's the gist)? Do they think that these people actually BECOME the other sex? I don't get the argument. I've heard of kids with 2 dads or 2 moms, but usually they don't just call one of their male parents "mom" or one of their female parents "dad." Fail.
3. @ 34 - for some reason (repression?) I couldn't place that tune - but you're so right, it's the damn Barney song. I like his message better.
Sexual orientation is no different than skin color, eye color, religion, gender or even food preference. Telling homosexual people that they have no right to marry or have a family is just as ignorant and ridiculous as telling all women or African Americans that they don't deserve the right to vote or to receive equal pay. These are our rights as human beings, how can we be so selfish! How we shame and harass these people. We are blind to the fact that this is going to happen no matter what.
And to the voters in CA, please be advised that in MI in 2004, we faced a vote on a similar constitutional amendment and were told that domestic partnerships would not be affected by the prohibition of gay marriages.
I almost support your theory entirely, however, I do not think that people who eat tomatoes should be allowed to vote. It is the devils fruit you know.
Ah thats so sweet. Just kidding, its borderline retarded, homophobic at best.
Nobody can spread hate quite like one of those evil vietnamese commy bastards.
i luv me some zipperhead…..
The real shame is that anyone can be a parent. Kids come into this world so innocent and full of love and trust, and we fuck them up with hate and ignorance.
Chelsea, on that note, I'll leave with one of my favorite movie quotes…
"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father."
Chelsea's right. That's child abuse!
My father always said he thought that people should have to pass a test to be a parent. I always thought he was crazy, then I grew up and realized he is right.
It's like you can hear their issues developing.
Say NO to hate
Vote NO on 8!
Say NO to hate
vote NO on 8
Plus, that "song" didn't even rhyme.
For shame.
Ew, I'm telling ya, those people not to stop teachin' dare kids stupid songs and start LEARNIN' HOW TO DRIVE!
Prop 8 doesn't just affect gay people, I currently am in a "domestic partnership" for insurance reasons and voting yes to 8 will affect that.
Brilliant! Teach them to hate while they're still young. If not, who knows what will become of them, they might grow up to be accepting, loving, forgiving, even empathetic grown ups. God forbid.
I'm not too worried about these children:
If the patterns of behavoir hold true, when they become teenagers, they will disregard any and all
political views held by that their parents. (with scorn)
One can hope.
silent noodles, you are the reason we need to vote yes on 8, to stop "convenient gays" like you taking advantage of the system. You are a disgrace.
That is just sad.
And sadly Prop 8 wont change the domestic partnership laws…so you can still keep cheating the system.
How does being in a domestic partnership make you a "convenient gay"?
If you are in a domestic partnership with a same-sex individual for "insurance reasons" then you are "gay" because its convenient for you so you can reap the benefits.
It's taking advantage of something that gays have worked hard to achieve.
God forbid someone take advantage of the system. It's not like the system has ever taken advantage of anyone.
You might want to re-read what silent noodles said. They didn't say they were gay, but that prop 8 will affect them as a result of them being in a domestic partnership.
Haydn - Prop 8 wont affect domestic partnerships. Prop 8 is proposition to give marriage back its original definition of union between a man and a woman.
Haydn, I was wondering the same thing.
where did silent noodles say that it was a same-sex domestic partnership?
matty, is that YOU?
Haydn - Regarding silent noodles statement, thats why I said he/she was a "convenient gay" that is if they are partnered with someone of the same sex.
say what? - The person never said if they were living in a same-sex situation. However, I beleive it was implied by saying "Im not gay" meaning "Im not gay, but still living with the same sex for insurance reasons". Thats what I took away from the statement. And in any situation being partnered with someone for "insurance reasons" is wrong.
Actually, I took it to mean a domestic partnership for a heterosexual couple who had chosen not to get married. Maybe your gaydar is off Yes?
Chelsea - Take it however you want, only the person who left comment knows the real answer. Regardless of what the situation is entering a partnership for "insurance reasons" is wrong, and taking advantage of the govt.
YOU believe it was implied?
but you don't know, right?
by saying "it doesn't only affect gay couples", a MUCH more rational assumption was the one that Chelsea made.
either way, I don't really care.
anyone, gay or straight, should be allowed to ruin their life by getting married if they want to.
(NOTE: I am being glib with that comment…I don't really believe that marrying will ruin your life. unless you're Katie Holmes.)
I hope those kids get beat up at school. I really do.
say what? - Yes, I have already clarified that is how I assumed the comment read. Of course I dont know, as I said earlier the only person that knows the real answer is the person that made the post.
Just like YOU believe Chelsea's response was a better assumption, but you dont know right?
No.30 - Who is going to beat them up? The elite gay crowd?
no, I don't. and I'm not claiming to.
you made a much more "definite" assumption in your posts where you told s.n. she was "cheating the system".
seems to me anyone who can read for comprehension would make an assumption like Chelsea and I did.
They are singing to the tune of a song "I love you love, love me" sung by a big purple dinosaur…. Irony!
It has nothing to do with marriage, it has to do with taking the rights away from a group of people. Remember segregation people? What next? Are the gays going to have to shop at separate stores and use separate bathrooms? No on 8, No on Hate. The government shouldn't have the right to take anyone's fundamental rights away from them, I don't care who you are.
Yes on Prop 8-It is not a same sex partnership asshole, I am in a committed heterosexual relationship and have chose not to get married as of now. I have been with the person for 8 years, we own a home and share all the bills. So just because I don't have a piece of paper stating that I am married means I am not entitled to insurance?
Oh nice. My assumpting was right, Yes. So why don't you now go silently question the truth in all your other assumptions. Namely that gay marriage is wrong or some way to cheat the system. We'll wait.
yeah Chelsea I thought it was implied with the "Prop 8 doesn't just affect gay people" but I guess I should have been more specific.
By the way, what the eff is assumpting? Assumption. I meant assumption. God I suck.
as if "it doesn't just affect gay people" wasn't specific enough, right?
s.n., that person obviously let their anti-gay bias taint their assumpting. (that one's for you, Chelsea!)
Your all losers…is that all you do look for peoples spelling errors?
Matt, it was my own spelling error. I'm allowed to correct my own. And it's you're. You mean to say, "You're all losers". It really takes the bite out of an insult if you don't get that correct.
We look for grammatical errors as well.
omg! reding 4 comprehenshunn, u has it 2?
Chelsea, can you ever forgive me?
Oh say what, you could never do any wrong!
aw, thanks…and back atcha!
"If my dad is a woman or my mom is a man, yes on proposition 8."
You know, a gay man could have written a song that actually rhymed.
Just goes to prove that some conservatives are overly interested in what others are doing with their genitals. Pervs!
But lets just call it what it is (just like 2004) a way to energize "the base" and get some votes for McCain. An illusory non-issue, and these folks don't even know they are being used.
Grrr, Matt outed himself! I was gonna come in and swear up and down it was Matt and I knew it - I'm telling you I can tell that writing style from any other commenter's.
Except Broomstick's. Heart you broomie, you crazy bitchface.
sar, I expected it, especially after "believe" was mis-spelled.
that video is stupid. Everybody knows the only way you can confuse an Asian is to put them behind the wheel of a car.
There is currently a battle being waged for the very foundation of our civilization and for the fabric of our society. That's right, people. I'm talking about those crazy men who want to marry one another and be legally recognized as partners. Or those crazy women who want to do the same.
When will it end? How will we, as a society, carry on? This is more than just an issue about values and religion and the Bible saying that homosexicality is WRONG. (The Bible also says that we are not to work on the Sabbath (thank you lord… everyone knows that the Sabbath is for drinking and football). The Bible also says that touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean (darnit, lord! how am I supposed to drink and watch football on the Sabbath, then? Must I become British and start watching soccer?).
No, this is not simply about religious values, people. This is an issue of national security. It is a well-known fact that homosexuals are not really people like you and me. Rather, they are a group of deviants. Evil doers. People who love *gasp* OTHER PEOPLE. But here's a little known fact–they are undead. Their insides are on the outside. And they have red beady eyes…. with LASERS. Yes. LASERS.
If we allow them to marry, they will promptly take over the universe, vaporizing everything in sight with laser-like precision.
Alas, there is not much that can be done about Laser Gays. We do not yet have the technology. Perhaps if we stop being such idiotic bigots, and stop wielding religion as a weapon to promote intolerance, and instead afford gays and lesbians the same rights that we, as heterosexuals, afford ourselves, we can seek out the Laser Gays and form a coalition. We can ask them to teach us how we can become Laser Straights. Or Laser Bisexuals. Or Laser Asexuals. Or Laser Transsexuals. We can put a laser in the eyes of every man, woman, and child in the world.
Let's work together. We *must* work together. Why? Because I have it on good authority that the Laser Gays are going Nookyular. And if there is one thing worse than Laser Gays… it's NOOKYULAR GAYS.
VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION 8.
silent noodles, when dealing with matt, one must use pictures cards.
his/her reading comprehension skills are as piss poor as his/her grammar, spelling, and ability for critical thinking.
yeah, that's right matt. i'm calling you a lady. because i don't know any real man that says "Ewwww!!!" and if you are a man, i feel sorry for you because i think sarah palin has more testosterone.
you're like jessica wakefield. or elizabeth wakefield. whichever one was the bitchy annoying one who kept stealing everyone's boyfriend.
picture* cards.
I welcome our new laser gay overlords.
join me in my laser gay bunker.
we have canned goods.
including beer.
in a can.
for the gnarly good.
praise gary.
@56
Lol :)
I worked on the Sabbath once. Big mistake. It's a sin, turns out. I covered myself with sackcloth and ashes and I declared it that my name be changed to Laser, to acknowledge my sin.
Mazel Tov! Which means, True Story!
It doesn't even rhyme! I cannot and will not support something that doesn't even bother to fucking rhyme! Oh yeah, and it's a disgusting ad.
1. It doesn't rhyme. This has been pointed out before, but I don't think it can be stressed enough.
2. What is this "my dad is a woman or my mom is a man" business (that may not be exactly the quote, but it's the gist)? Do they think that these people actually BECOME the other sex? I don't get the argument. I've heard of kids with 2 dads or 2 moms, but usually they don't just call one of their male parents "mom" or one of their female parents "dad." Fail.
3. @ 34 - for some reason (repression?) I couldn't place that tune - but you're so right, it's the damn Barney song. I like his message better.
Sexual orientation is no different than skin color, eye color, religion, gender or even food preference. Telling homosexual people that they have no right to marry or have a family is just as ignorant and ridiculous as telling all women or African Americans that they don't deserve the right to vote or to receive equal pay. These are our rights as human beings, how can we be so selfish! How we shame and harass these people. We are blind to the fact that this is going to happen no matter what.
Well said, CARL!
And to the voters in CA, please be advised that in MI in 2004, we faced a vote on a similar constitutional amendment and were told that domestic partnerships would not be affected by the prohibition of gay marriages.
It was a bald-faced lie.
Don't be fooled, as we were.
I almost support your theory entirely, however, I do not think that people who eat tomatoes should be allowed to vote. It is the devils fruit you know.
CHERRY TOMATOES = TEH ANTICHRIST!!
LOOK IT UP!!!!!111<—
Children are soooo cruel! They are mean and spiteful.
Children relish making fun of people that they perceive as different from themselves. They are so immature.
(Don't just watch this clip here, check out any playground at recess time.)
Parents! Resist the bad influence of your children. I appeal to your good consciences!
You will have privacy in that voting booth.
Stop the hate: Vote NO on 8